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ALJ @UFORMATION CONTAINED IS UNCLASSIFIED FD-302 (Rev. 10-6-95) DA 5-11-2009 BY 60324 UC BAW/SHB /18C e 1 FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION Date of transcription _01/31/2004 ALI HASAN AL-MAJID AL-TIKRITI, aka "Chemical Ali" (Blacklist #5) date of birth July 1, 1941, place of birth Tikrit, Iraq was interviewed at the Baghdad International Ai Baghdad, Iraq. Also present at the interview was be US Army Representative. FBI Li . b7c provided Arabic/English translation. ter being advised that the interviewing Agents were members of the United States Government from Washington, DC, MATID provided the following information: MAJID is from the Abu Nasir tribe or clan located in and around Tikrit, Iraq. Fourteen different tribes/families lived in this area. MAJID's grandfather was the Governor of Tikrit. His father was a well-known, highly respected individual in Tikrit who had "no problems with anyone." There were no major problems between the families of the area. Issues were normally solved without approaching the government for a solution. be Tribal thoughts and ctistoms pervade the entire social structure in Iraq including Baghdad. As an example, MAJID described how the tribe deals with an incident such as a car accident involving a fatality. After the accident, an agreement between the families of the involved parties normally takes place regarding the punishment of the person deemed at fault. This agreement is then presented to a court and sentencing occurs based on the recommendation from the two families. MAJID's tribe has two primary rules, one which prohibits "fighting" within the tribe and the other which prohibits a man from "flirting" with a single woman. For violation of either rule, an offender would be killed.’ . The oldest male member of the tribe is generally the "sheikh" or leader and tends to be the one who is most respected and fair. Sometimes, however, the oldest male may not be able to fulfill this function due to mental or physical difficulties. MAJID became "sheikh" of his tribe after the death of the third person in line. Saddam Hussein, MAJID's cousin and former Investigation on 01/31/2004 _at_Baqhdad, Iraq Date-dictated 01/31/2004 bs File # 315E-HO Be 144853424 Aus L. Pir, ‘This document contains neither recommendations nor conclusions of the FBI. It-is the property of the FBI and is Toaned to your agency; it and its contents are not to be distributed outside your agency. .