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Jew ‘that's advising the Negro joins the NAACP, CORE, ‘the Urban League, and others. With money donations, vr gains control, then he sends, *" = black wan doing all this wading-in, boring-in, e 4 arying-in - everything but bi_/. in. Never shows him how to set up factories and hotels. Never advises him how to own what he wants. Mo, when there's something worth owning, the Jew's got it. PLAYBOY: Isn't it true that many Gentiles have also labored with dedication to advance integration and economic improvement for the Negro, as volunteer workers for the NAACP, CORE and many other interracial agencies? MALCOLM X: A man who tosses worms in the river isn't necessarily a friend of the fish. All the fish who take him for a friend, who think the worm's got no hook in it, usually end up in the frying pan. All these things dangled before us by the white liberal pos- ing as a friend and benefactor have turned out to be nothing but bait to make us think wr're making progress. The Supreme Court decision has never been enforced. Desegre- gation has never taken place. The promises have never been fulfilled, We have received only tokens, substitutes, trickery and deceit. PLAYBOY: What motives do you impute to PLAYBOY for providing you with this opportunity for the free discussion of your views? MALCCLM X: I think you want to sell magazines. I've never seen a sincere white man, not when it comes to helping black people. Usually things like this are done by white people to benefit themselves. The white man's primary interest is not to elevate the thinking of black people, or white people either. The white man is interested in the black man only to the extent that the black man is of use to him. The white man's in- e@ terest is to make money, to exploit. PLAYBOY: Is there any white man on earth whow you would concede to have the Negro‘s welfare genuinely at heart? MALCOLM X: I say, sir, that you can never make an intelligent judgement without evi- dence. If any man will study the entire history of the relationship between the white man ard the black man, no evidence will be found that justifies any confidence or faith that the black man might have in the white man today. PLAYBOY: Then you consider it impossible for the white man to be anything but an ex- ploiter and a hypocrite in his relations with the Negro? MALCOLM ¥: Is it wrong to attribute a pre-disposition to wheat before it comes up out of the ground? Wheat's characteristics and nature make it wheat. It differs from bar- ley decause of its nature. Wheat perpetuates its own characteristics just as the white race does. White pecple are born devila by nature. They don't become so by deeds. If you never put popcorn in a skillet, it would still be popcorn. Put the heat to it, it —, will pop. PLAYBOY: You say that white men are devils by nature. Was Christ a devii? MALCOLM X: Christ wasn't white, Christ was a black man. PLAYBOY: On what Scripture do you base this assertion? MALCOLM X: Sir, Billy Graham has made the same statement in public. Why not ask him what Scripture he found it in? When Pope Pius XII died, Life magazine carried a picture of him in his private study kneeling before a black Christ. PLAYBOY: Those are hardly quotations from Scripture. Was He not reviled as "King of | the Jews" - a people the Black Muslims attack? MALCOLM X: Only the poor brainwashed American Negro has been made to believe that Christ was white, to maneuver him into worshiping the white man. After becoming a Muslim in prison, I read almost everything I could put my hands on in the prison library. I be- gan to think back on everything I had read and especially with the histories, I rea- lized that nearly all of them read by the general public have been made into white his- tories. I found out that the history-whitening process either had left out great things that black men had done, or some of the great black men had gotten ss alaaenate PLAYBOY: Would you list a few of these men? MALCOLM X: Well, Hannibal, the most successful general that ever lived, was a black man. So was Beethoven; Beethoven's father was one of the blackamoors that hired them- selves out in Europe as professional soldiers. Haydn, Beethoven's teacher, was of African descent. Columbus, the discoverer of America, was a half-black man. — 5