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country to hate thenselveg | ve inferior, to hate. each othe 7& be divided against esch other. Messenger Muhanmad--cestores our ‘love for our own k » Which enables us to work together in unity and harmony. He shows us how to pool our financial resources and our talents, then to work together toward a common objective, Among other things, we have “gmall businesses in most major cities in this country, and we want to create many Sore. We are taught by Mr. Muhammad that it {s very important to improve the black man's economy, and his thrift. But to do this, ve must have land of our om. The brain-- washed black man can never learn to stand on his own two feet wntil he is on his own. We must learn to become our own producers, wanufacturers and traders; we must have fe dustry of our own, to employ our own. The white man resists this because he wants te keep the black man under his thumb and jurisdiction in white society. He wants to keep the black man always dependent and begging - for jobs, food, clothes, shelter, education. The white man doesn't want to lose somebody to be supreme over. He wants to keep the black man where he can be watched and retarded. Mr. Mubammad teaches that as soon as ~*.- we separate from the white man, we will learn that we can do without the white man just as he can do without us. The white man knows that once black men get off to themselves and learn they can do for themselves, the black wan's full potential will explode and he will surpass the white man. PLAYBOY: Do you feel that the Black Muslims’ goal of obtaining “several states” is a practical vision? MALCOLM X; Well, you might consider some things practical that are really impractical. Wasn't it impractical that the Supreme Court could issue a desegregation order nine years ago and there's still only eight percent compliance? Ie it practical that a hun- dred years efter the Civil War there's not freedom for the black man yet? On the re- cord for integration you've got the President, the Congress, the Supreme Court - but show me your integration, where ie it? That's practical? Mr. Muhammad teaches us to ' be for what's really practical - that's separation, It's more natural than integration. PLAYBOY: In the view of many, that is highly debatable. However: In a recent inter- view, Negro author-lecturer Louis Lomax said, "Eighty percent, if not more, of America‘s 20,000,000 Negroes vibrate sympathetically with the Muslims’ indictment of the white power structure. But this does not mean we agree with them in their doctrines of een trangement or with their proposed resolutions of the race problem.” Does this view represent a consensus of opinion among Negroes? And if so, is it possible that your scparationist and anti-Christian doctrine have the effect of alienating many of your race? MALCOLM X: Sir, you make a mistake listening to people who tell you how much our stand alienates black men in this country. I'd guess actually we heve the sympathy of 90 percent of the black people. There are 20,000,000 dormant Muslims in America. A Muslim to us is somebody who is for the black man; I don’t care if he goes to the Baptist ’ Church seven days a week. The Honorable Elijah Muhammad says that a black man is born a Muslia by nature. There are millions of Muslima not aware of it now. All of them will be Muslims when they wake up; that's what's meant by the Resurrection, Sir, I'm going to tell you a secret; the black man is a whole lot smarter than white people thiak he is. The black man has survived in this country by fooling the white man. He's been dancing and grinning and white men never guessed what he was thinking. Now you'll hear the bourgeois Negroes pretending to be alienated, but they're just mak- ing the white man think they don't go for what Mr. Muhammad is saying. This Negro that will tell you he's so against us, he's just protecting the crumbs he gets from the white ren's table. This kind of Negro is so busy trying to be like the white wen that he dresn't know what the real masses of his own people are thinking. A fine car and house aud clothes and liquor have made a lot think themselves different from their poor black brothers. But Mr, Mr. Muhammad says that Allah is going to wake up all black men to see the white man as he really is, and see what Christianity has done to them. The black masses that are waking up don't believe in Christianity anymore. All it's done for black men is help to keep them slaves... Mr. Mubammad is teaching that Christianity, as white people see it, means that whites can have their heaven here on earth, but the black man is supposed to catch hig hell here. The black man is supposed to keep be~ lieving that when he dies, he'll float up to some city with golden streets and milk and honey on a cloud somewhere. Every black man in North America has heard black Christian preachers shouting about "tomorrow in good old Beulah's Land.” But the thinking black