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GG Interviewer GG Interviewer GG Well, I had a dual role you see. As Chief of Air Operations I reported to Beerli, and I kept him informed on my activities with the JMARC Project; but as far as the project itself was concerned, I was in my dual capacity there, and my immediate superior was Esterline. Well, where did you sit? Did you sit down there with Jake? No, I sat up in my office on H Street and then I went to all the meetings as a Staff member on the Project. We had some space assigned to us down there, but my actual day- to-day operation was in the H Street Building. Were you satisfied with this set up? No, I don't think it was a good set up. I think there should be a clean break because, while there were never any irreconcilable differences of opinion, people who are strictly 100% air, tend to approach a problem dif- ferently ~han people who are using air as a vehicle. I believe that to take an air specialist and put him on a staff for his technical know how would be a better relationship, rather than let him keep the relationship where he was reporting to two bosses. 25/* * Another of the reasons Gaines offered for assigning an Air Force type to the JMATE staff was that Chief, WH/4 had some "would be pilots" who were advising him; and such advisers frequently caused more problems than were warranted. 26/ - 24 -