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against Puerto Barrios had been flown by Guatemalan pilots, Jake was challenged several times by people from the United Fruit Company who were there at Puerto Barrios at the time, and they said "look, we have been living a- round Guatemala for years and we have never seen Guatemalan pilots fly or shoot with the precision that these fellows shot. They didn't kill anybody." (Any- body that they weren't supposed to kill, I guess is the way to put it.) There wasn't a stray bullet anywhere, they strictly hit military targets. But there was a case of a green light from State Department, and then they said they didn't mean it. It was academic, because it was done. 47/* * Esterline's additional comments are indicative of the confusion that one faces in trying to sort out details of the Bay of Pigs, 16 years after the event. In contrast to Bissell's previously noted remarks with reference to the cable requesting permission to act in response to Ydigoras's request, Jake noted that: We got this urgent call requesting the use of our troops. We got it, and we looked at it and didn't know what to do with it. We called State Department and said, "We suppose this is critical. The whole thing is going to pot." I suppose that it was Rubottom or somebody at that level over there, that we called. They said "Well, I guess you had better give him what he wants." -So we gave him what he wanted, and that was about the time that it was in motion; and we got a call back from State Depart- ment saying they'd checked, and they didn't mean it, but it was in motion at that point. 48/