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NK 94-417 WTD : JuiP aa financial interest in the Jersey City transaction. The loan om was made by ZWILLMAN in October, 1949, ZWILLMAN giving WEBER a check for $20,000 and in return received notes. ZWILLMAN related that WEBER repaid $12,500 in sixty days, and that he, ZWILLMAN, still holds the notes for the remaining $7,500 of the loan. During this Larner Hearing, ZWILLMAN was agked if be had ever made political campaign contributions to either of the former mayors of Jersey City, namely FRANK HAGUE or JOHN V. KENNY. He replied that he had not. During his testimony, ZWILLMAN apparently gave answers such as "no" or "I can't recall". The attorney asked ZWILLMAN to clarify his distinction between the two and his reply was as follows: — "My answer to that, Mr. NOLAN, for the last five ao years there are some professional informers around here who are putting up things about me, getting people to send anonymous letters, getting people to make phony phone calls, getting people to accuse canine me of making an offer of $300,000 which never existed. “And if I definitely say no to something, they will have two goons to say I did, and you will have me for perjury. And I am not going to put myself in that position if I can help it." In reply to a question, ZWILLMAN stated that HAROLD KRIEGER, the Assistant Corporation Counsel for Jersey City, was the only Jersey City official he knew. The above $300,000 offer is believed to refer to the alleged offer made by ZWILLMAN during the gubernatorial campaign of 1950 or 1951 in the amount of $300,000 for democratic candidate WENE. The "Jersey Journal", Jersey City, New Jersey, of April 9, 1957, contained an article reporting that SAMUEL A. LARNER was scheduled to return that date before the Hudson County Grand Jury with “additional” testimony concerning an "old ball park" transaction involving ABNER ZWILLMAN. First Assistant Prosecutor JULIUS CANTAR declined to state what the testimony was about but it was believed that the word “additional" meant evidence other than that reported by LARNER in his probe of the Jersey City finances. -33 -