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CHS Reporting © © 279A-WF-222936-BEI (Pending), 07/02/2008 mixed message that adults can paddle but kid's can't...I imagine it was different when you grew up though - did you ever witness it (or receive? You were probably a good kid :-) I only got paddled once when I attended Catholic elementary school - I don't think it much worked (and the result is I'm now protestant - haha.) Wow...here I am, a non-Greek, being "pro-Greek" and agreeing with you about hazing!!!! I bet that members who witnessed both the "old" and the "new" ritual think’ that the old one was much better. It would have been a binding, beautiful experience, one in which, both symbolically and in reality. pledges/new members come into the Light and the Knowledge. The new one you talked about seems almost like a bunch of people who like each other living in the same building. Your ritual should be a special, bonding experience, and simply walking into a room with your eyes open, closed, or blinking, just doesn't seem to hold the same mystery or power. BTW I think this is privileged, but didn't they call Big sisters and Little sisters Didaska***** and Mathe******, (Sorry about my non~Greek abilities!) I saw a youtube "trust" project where they blindfolded a young woman at a Christian camp and had her stand on a board. They pretended to raise the board, then dumped her off it. She lay on the floor crying. It was very sad, and I know that if it had been a college - sorority, it would have made the national news. So much for fairness in media. I actually wrote about it in Greek at.com under the name Go Did you ever go to a cursillo/de colores weekend? (I can't remember if you said that before). I attended a youth version of one and the trust walk/blindfold was really integral to the experience. But, no one accuses churches of hazing. I think people form a stereotype of what they expect then look for the evidence to support the theory. My only experience with a trust walk was being an obstacle in one! It was at the Newman Center at the University of Cincinnati. I had just had an operation to repair my ankle, and was on crutches, so I sat on the floor, and people got guided around me, over my crutches. It was neat to watch how important both trust and responsibility are. That's why I think that it's a good thing in GLOs and other organizations. I agree that if it's hazing for a non- GLOS, then it should be hazing for a GLOS. Maybe,