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? FD-302a (Rev. 10-6-95) @ @ 279A-WF-222936-USAMRIID Continuation of FD-302 of fo ,On 02/06/2008 __, Page 3 , were "not clean" and had to be purified of their non-refractile spores, and vegetative debris. fl recalled that sometime around 1999 there definitely appeared to be a natural_shift in anthrax research from countermeasures to therapeutics but i believe this would have had an effect on IVINS, although noted at some point IVINS had one of his research proposals rejected for funding. indicated that IVINS always had_some kind work to do with respect to animal experiments. At firstL could not recall the topi n do with IVINS" comin t_various j or meetings, but after some reflection Poe 4 indicated did have some recollection whereby the topic came up elayed that the issue of "What to do with IVINS" was not a resu of anything negative but was simply an effort to maximize IVINS's skills. [ recalled that prior und the 1999 time period, two entities, a increasingly involved in the rPA researc ield. The actually became the main system vendor for the anthrax vaccine as rPA research began to transition to the advanced development stage. Research work at USAMRIID became much, more regimented and the review process underwent greater scrutiny as did the merit of the various research proposals. Prior to 1999 the research atmosphere at USAMRIID was more academic-like. The general attitude was "You're gonna get some money; just write something up." The need for bas: did not totally go awa opined that[L__Jis not sure whether USAMRIID researchers benefitted o t-as a result of the anthrax-laced letter mailings of 2001. feels that the anthrax mailings actually hurt USAMRIID employees in that a significant increase in research dollars became available resulting in a significant increase in competition as well[__]stated that "All kinds of people came out of the woodwork." The entire research environment surrounding the biological defense community became more competitive [7 named the Navy, Air Force, and the National Institute of Health as examples. of new competitors. When questioned _about IVINS's late night activity in the hot suites at USAMRIID[ indicated chad | was unaware that