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@ ALL oe TON CONTATNED HEREDMES UNCLASSIFIED FD-302 (Rev. 10-6-95) DATE 12-10-2008 BY 60924 UC BAU/RS/LSC -1- FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION bé Date of transcription _09/26/2007 b7c n Cet with BRUCE ED S_IVINS of the U.S. Army Milita Research Institute of Infectious Diseas A D The Owing conversation took place: asked IVINS why he had a black eye. IVINS stated that he ran into something, then he joked that it was his wife's fist. IVINS denied alcohol being involved in the incident and added that he thought he got it while he was sleeping. He explained that his side table is close to his bed and he may have rolled over and hit it. then asked IVINS why_he was at work around midnight, the previous night, sending emails -[ asked him if he thought that puts up a big red flag [to investigators]. IVINS said that when he started working extra long and hard it wasn't viewed as evil or suspicious. At times, he would go to work to get away from his Additionally, IVINS stated that he walked to work last night and then home around 1 AM. He explained that he took an ‘Ambien and then walked home and by that time he was zonked and didn't wake-up until the morning. VINS informea[ that he had suggested the idea setting-up a trailer off-post, at a place not close To a ropolitan area, and utilizing a fermenter to grow Ames spores. According to IVINS, he came up with this idea because Dugway [Proving Grounds] can't meet their demands. IVINS informed |_| that people were tetting[ to be more discreTe an ess taunting to the FBI. Fkr examp e,[ is sending pictures, via email, of powdered sugar Investigation on 09/25/2007 at Fredereck, MD fle # 279A-WE-222936-BEI — {AP Date dictated N/A SA by PI This document contains neither recommendations nor conclusions of the FBI. It is the property of the FB! and is loaned to your agency; it and its contents are not to be distributed outside your agency.