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ca _~ RE: COUNTERORTEWtAL iON WERE ——ee a nT ee eens ee ia ¥ Even so, let's put it this way, the Vietnamese people, if even if there was no anti-wax movement in the United States or = anywhere else in the world, are convinced, and I'm convinced Sy also, that they would win final victory, that they would, that Pa Vietnam will in fact win. Thry s3re*prepared to continue fighting 3 the war five years, ten years, twenty years, thirty years, until - that they've won the complete withdrawa] of all U. S. troops from 4 Vietnam. At the =ameo time they're willing to do everything short a of compromising these basic principles to ease the U. S&S. out of Vietnam. In fact, they put it as if the U. S, troops want red carpets and flcwers strew> before them as they go to the boats, that they'll be glad to o1:: nize that for them. But they will not budge on the principle «f total and imnediate withdrawal. x & t. ‘ : y P e At this pint, tie-y say that the U. S. anti-war movement can pluy an amor’ decisive role not in the sense of whether or net ily will win victory but in the sense of whether the war will end in a year or at an easily time, or whether cie me war will take Ienyger to win. New, and that's what it about boils down to, and that'= I think ef this point our responsibility not only to the Victnamese people but to the American people as well. That's sort of the general cutline of what the Vietnamese presented. In each of these areas they went into a lot more detail but one thing that they did talk about which is very difficult to convey unless you've actually met with them and talked with them, and studied the situation in Vietnam quite thoroughly, is cw a nation of 14 million peovle, how this small underdeveloped nation has been able to take on what is suppcesedly the most. powerful military machine in the world and net erly bring i= to a grinding halt, but ‘to actually defeat it on the battlefield. The kind cf answer that they gave is prople's war. But again, I mean, to a lot of pecple th=t seems just like a slogan. And a lot of, and when the military guy was speaking to us, he had a few thoughts in his speech, that the greatest invention of the twentieth century is net nuclear weapons but people's war. The U. S. will never escape from the labyrinth and see of fighting of people's war. 119