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er aeP Fee ree eee Philby, in Interview, Says ould Spy f ForRi tssians Again 4 By ALVIN SHUSTER . Special lo The New York Times - LONDON, Wednesday, Nov. 15——-Harold*Philby said in an interview puodlished here today that he had no regrets over his 30-yeat career of spying for the Soviet Union and would do it all over “if I were young again in Britain today.” i ‘Philby, & ranking British in: telligence agent who defected |to the Soviet Union in 1963, said that he led his life as a double agent. because he want- ed to “fight unism” and was “prepared to subjugate everything _in Pursult of that: purpose.” - “I would do’ it sgsin tomor- row,” he said.’ + ‘Mentality of a Traitor’ - “He was interviewed by Roy Blackman,’ Daily Express te! porter in Moscow, ina restau-. rant ‘there. | Officials of the newspaper here said that they had not paid for the interview and that it had resulted from “hounding” Philby. The - Sunday Times, which published a series of articles on -the career of Philby in re- cent weeks, indicated in one of its pieces that Philby had asked en money for. his _ personal eee Ee story. - In an ‘editorial note, ‘The Ex- press said that the interview could ot have been obtained withouEthe™aBprofar othe Soviet _authorities, “whose mo- few for diecreditinfe—tneBtit- ish and Western intelligence services are obvious.” But it! said that it was publishing the;. interview because it provided an insight into the mentality of a traitor?’ Philby h§d remained inac- 'cessible to Western correspond- ents in Moscow since he ar- \tived,, from Beirut, Ful four o. He was | seen af et ete “ <5 fhe ae pient, gt the the concert of ic, but said only that he had nothing to say. The Daily Express, which in- cluded pictures of Philby and Mr. Blackman in the restaurant, said that the interview took: place between “drams of vodka. and glasses of white Georgian, wine. “I cannot say my conversion happened at any fixed point of time,” Philby is quoted as say- ing, “but 1 do know that after two years of painful thought | bad made uj up my mind | in June,| 193. . Calls Job Easy He said that it had not been difficult to reach a high posi- tion in British intelligence, “J just arranged things so that ] was invited, ” he added. Philby, _ regarded as the most |jmportant Soviet agent to pene- trate the Western intelligence community, at one point ead- ed the British anti-Soviet intel- ligence operation. In the late nineteen-forties he was sent to Washington tha rk with the Central Intelligence Agency, which was then getting organ-| - ae left the ” British intelli- gence service in 1955 and con- tinued his spying as a journalist until his defection. ‘Philby said in the interview that, since his arrival in Mos- cow, “I have been treated with . high honor and great considera tion” and that “I cannot really regard my life as being one of hardship.” On British intelligence, Phil- by said that the British Gov- ernment had great difficulties ‘ in finding the right men to run|. their intelligence services. Mili- tary me “have never really shone” in this field, he said. Diseusses Motives “I am surprised that the Americans were not better led,” he added. In discussing his motivation for turning Communist, Philby; recounted his feelings in the "thirties. “The background of my thinking was the economic jerisis and massive Unempioy-| - De ag - C . te Mokr ~ ' - Bi Casper Callahan Conrad lessne existing .forces elt deal wat What a daar pte r ; ture It was.” ale k Asked by Mr, Blackman 1 what Rosen missed of English life, ry said that he missed beer and Sullivan oysters, an occasional afternoon Tavel at the soccer matches and some Trotter friends. le. R But he added that there were. Tele. Room some things he did not- mind| Holmes being without, listing “the ex- Gand pensé-account lunch, British) VO"OCY railways, the Beaverbrook press, all the humbug about police, bank holiday, English Channel, the Ys ane cost of liv- ing, the Order oi e Brith Em , tthe British The Washington Post Times Herald The Washington Daily News The Evening Star (Washington) The Sunday Star (Washington) Daily News (New York) Sunday News (New York} New York Post The New York Times oe The Sun (Baltimore) The Worker —— The-New Leader The Wall Street Journal The National Observer People’s World fhe Praee DELETED copy SENT oe ~ELERa fre pe ~? FOIA REQUEST be ni 1 ment throughout the capitalist fit Date worktime the apparent—t . . ; 7 ‘ ve yal & (is he gee hi bhi OV? NOT RECORDED oe - roi i | a oo” e 145 NoviT 1837 Ae “y TO aye tet os a he ‘ Ne Se ae, an aa ec . ‘ Syne Meares at ree