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Cambridge Five Spy Ring — Part 37
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1513. Former Foreign Office 7 NOVEMBER 1955 Officials — Disappearance
reads the Communist daily newspaper,
or reads the periodicals or other informa-
tion coming one's way, one cannot help
but feel that they have not the slightest
Yceling of obligation or loyalty 1o the
‘United Kingdom—that their loyalty is to
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I reserve the right lo disagree with
j reser to disa with
'my own country if I think that my own
‘country is wrong in a given course of
‘policy. I reserve the right to agree with
other countries if 1 think that they are
‘right, but I am always very suspicious of
‘anybody, whether a Government servant
jor somebody else, who persistently ex-
pounds the view that our country is
always wrong. and the Communist
countries are always right. There is
something wrong with that, and it gives
rise 10 legitimate suspicion. |; _
It is sometimes said that Communism
is a cetigion. I do not think that is fair
_ to religion. I think that in some ways
it is a disease. In fact. my right hon.
: Friend the Member for Ebbw Vale (Mr.
, Bevan), some years ago, very rightly said,
j “The Communist party is not a party;
‘dt is an organised conspiracy”. There
is a great deal of truth in that. <.-- . .
Me. Emrys Hughes (South Ayrshire) :
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We say that about the Tories. ©,
Mr. Morrison: Jf £ could think of
" Something to quote to please my hon.
i Friend, I would do so, but I have o
got such a quotation ready, "7% °°’
| Nevertheless, there are some Com-
munisis who are innocent, sincere but
deceived. It is the case that in the
Security Service we are up against a new
problem. Formerly, a man who was a
national of another country was hired as
a spy, or even a national of one’s own
country was. hired as a spy—that was
the game, and they were often very brave
men. But the new situation of a volun-
tary act of service in the interests of a
foreign power against one’s own country
is a very serious matter for security in
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Let no one think that this aspect is con-
fined to the working classes: J do not
think that anyone does think so. 1n fact,
the cases with which we are concerned are
not of that character. There have been
some working-class cases, but the funny
thing about the middle and upper classes,
the well-to-do class, is that if they go
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all soris of ways.in.) cerniels att.
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worse than other people—(Hon. MEM-
Bers: “Oh."]—-it is so, y y
revolting agains, their families and they
finish up by secretly revolting against the
State. That is rather curious. What {
have said about the Communists is
equally true about the Fascists. a
~ Mr. C. Pannell: Perhaps my right hon. ~
Friend will address himself -to.- the
point to which the Secretary of State 2”
did not address himself, namely that,
generally speaking, this talk
the liberty of the subject has
been applied circumspectly to mem-
Bers of the working-classes; the Ministry
Supply screened,
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screened, persons, including members of ;
my union, on the slenderest susnicion, and .- -
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that, broadly speaking, the tests of the
Foreign Office were not equitably inflicted
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wrong in this fashion they are, if anything, .
talk about
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Mr. Morrison: I think that there may ~~ .
be some (ruth in what my hon. Friend
says. Fo was Minister of Supply for a
few months, Some workmen were dis-
missed before my arrival. I had com
faints from a Labour Member of Par-
jament, the Jate Arthur Jenkins, about
it, and I went inio if and came to the
conclusion that they had been dismissed
on inadequate information and on in- ©
adequate grounds. Therefore, I think
there is, or that there was at any rate,
some truth in what my hon. Friend says,
.-Y agree that it would be wrong to -
assume that use @ man is a Com-
munist or a Fascist at university he must
be necessarily guilty for life. Al! sorts of *
things happen among university under .
aduates. J never studied at a university,
‘Tam a product of the elementary schoo
and 1 am not ashamed of the fact. But
all sorts of things happen at the. uni-. .
versities. Abnormal ideas are evolved,
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are encouraged to evolve them because
‘they are thought to be good for the
youthful mind, ances #8 Wyner 2 7 Lad ane t ae
. There was, for example, the motion
farried at the Oxford University Debating’ ~
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‘Society that they would not fight for their
King and country. and many people were
understandably shocked about at. But
the House may be sure that three- |
quarters, and may be more, of those
young men did fight for their King and
country when war came. So what hap-
pens at university is not conclusive either
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