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cs Besar 1523. Former Fan Office, J NOVEMBER 195$ Officials ..ppearance 152 ce ON eatg : . + * ied . - we Le a : ’ , oS | co {Ma. Morrison,] ’ so Such an inquiry would do no harm < Pear Sel oe AB etre eh ae ' The question I want to submit for the if the Foreign Office emerged well out ¢ ok ids fed cae consideration of the Prime Minister and such an inquiry that would be for ty Foose Sees FB f. the Government—-I was involved in good of the Foreign Office, and, if thes fh JU Bjic- earlier arguments about it—is based on were improvements to be made, 4, " bo the fact that the Forcign Scrvice is would be for the good of the country aes = | |. ia tg separate from the home Civil Service. It That task could be done by a Select Con! a poe! is separately recruited, it maintains its mittce or some other suitable body. . ‘ Bp seen. 4 bed iin oo own life and, I think my right hon. Friend I think the Foreign Secretaiy is eee ece es RB heEL the Member for Bishop Aucklan + bp, 10 resisting any inquiry into that matter, thesec ee & )A Dalton) will agree, it is not as much su use we should remember the hea Pe Bibeb dee t to Treasury co-ordination as is the burden on the Foreign Secretary. It ic & rs —— rn ome Civil Service [dnterruption.] My almost impossible for him to devote the’ Rhone | right hon. Friend thinks it is much the ttenti | dministrative details and: ae one ame. The point I want to raise is tention to administrative details and: aed f piye same. ne, iM ‘ soe «Personal questions in the Depariment aE + fot whether it is right that the Foreign Service which is possible for a Minister in charee; Bp } oo should be entirely separate from the home oy oy, Oe timent. The Dep args | cee ae Civil Service? -- wise teense a home Depa partment « * - , - . : . . knows that, with the consequence that it ne fd Bod In the home Civil Service there are trans- is quite possible for the Department not : pore: ty fers between one Department and another. - 40 take to the Secretary of State or one- ble Baas It is a very good thing that there should of the other Ministers matters which in a’ : j- moet Sok. be transfers between Department and De- home Department would be taken to the - 1 ae 2 ' tt met pariment. That gives men a varied ex- Minister. That is not because the Depart . ae tee perience, and their knowledge becomes ment is trying to dodge the Minister, but . or E Hee richer and more varied in knowledge. I because it knows shat the Secretary of & ae ae readily concede the point that we must State is so heavily burdened that it must an 2 , have a substantial proportion of Foreign “chance its arm™ a bit. J think these 2c vo: Office people who are to be in the Foreign matters need looking into. Otherwise we . = Office for life. There is some dilution shail have trouble over the health of : t . , rere ‘ * ; >, ee Loe ? ge ey were 1 aA vat a “4 ; 7 ‘ + > . : tp Takil + a eee Sei now, however, in respect of the labour attachés, who are recruited through the Ministry of Labour, but I am not at all sure that it would not be a good thing for men from other home Departments to be transferred to the Foreign Office and for men from the Foreign Office to be future Foreign Secretaries, as we have | had over the health of past Foreiga Secre- - Secondly, there is a case for looking into security, partly in the light of the circumstances of the Burgess and Mazc- : F — . transferred to home Departmentsin order €20_ case, and partly in order to be : ns F bok that they might get a wider variety of exe Salisfied that the Security Services are a a bot perience through the collective experience good. Here we are dealing with a dif- ae - hep of the Foreign Office and the home Civil ferent story altogether, It ts much more a eer b Pokey Service. ; mo, dificult to have po in viry into the Bete: gee decks t a tote ae cae os ot = security services. Jt clearly cannot be a an a . Bed aye I suggest to the Government that in ublic inquiry that would be ridiculous. £ feeete$ - }e- fo se. these circumstances, and in the light of Kor can & be an inquiry with a public ae | "AC Goh these unhappy and beastly incidents, there - Pa ia = : aif Puta ay ance 6 oFeport; that, I think, is out of the ques- [ Tt! is a case for an inquiry. I still think, in |; H ‘. A.» y i , : . tion. We cannot ex to the public : ores view of public apprehension, or even mis- 15) the security machine of our own of eR OSL ES KA understanding, that there should be an on cities “We cannot risk a divule- bey ge hia. inquiry into recruitment to and promotion ing of the secrets either of espionage - . Faris. Bes flik:- in the Foreign Office and into the ad- ‘78 : ronage. On that in tl Fear an Gace oT ee ministration of the Foreign Office, That COUNeT-Sspronagt. er there i a should include the problem of the very should be investigation by a judge or yer ews eae baepeecree beavy burden which falls on the Secret judges in private, * poate cco being Dgyoe gos yt of State in modern times. It is much ™ade to the Prime- hen ut ok or toe heavier than it used to be, and has bad that step ought to be One ‘ hope that Sgro y Al ae grave effects on the health of more than the Prime Minister, in his reply can give Sree came Beane t 7 one Secretary of State. I think that Us and the country some comfort about $ gee te Ber aspect ought to be looked into to see thal matter... ...-'. 37 Aus ton git ate a : whether there is any delegation to existing 1 do not koow whether all my hon. 7 - Beer. junior Ministers and for Parliament to be Friends will take this view, but both tog. kia bh. told about i = | eres uscu..vat:. fields might be covered by a Committee i aa = - Be wy oe -_7 = Ca * - ie . ms poe 2 * wr awe te we “el seg ey 1 a tile ae