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ha Dinh PRT eT OAM eer deg inn amc loa NAF POTTS amt cede ge em er BS ty a +) Me Semen aha mien en ot os . 1585 Former Pater Oficé. 7 NOVEMBER 1955 pe 15845: ete i still be in the country and probably re- ' employed in some other Government , Depariment, | All that would have hop: pened would have been that he wou have been asked fo resign. ag ote We are now left with two ‘Secple whose identity is not yet disclosed. Three people came under suspicion, one was Maclean, and the other twa did nat include Bure sce GALA QI SPREEGE Vee NERS EAP SSM BM ae, - Why is there such great reluctance by the Foreign Office to say what has happencd to those two people? 4. ena mere eerie Mr. George Thomas (Cardiff, West}: Does my hon. and gallant Friend think that it is the job of a Government Depart. ment to smear people on suspicion? 7 ; " Lieut.-Colonel Lipion: 1 will come, 10 that point in a moment,” There i is & very simpic answer io it and hoa. Members wil] have an answer to that criticism, ° 1 am not asking the Forcign Office to mention any names, but why is it that they will not disclose and have not yet disclosed how many people have been asked to resign, have been dismissed, or transferred to other positions as a result of, or following, the i inquiries arising from E the Maclean-Burgess isappearance, Mfr, Tuortan + My right har Brie nA ® ST ese SURG tees w Frey RS ee, nd tne Foreign Secretary zave the exact number speech. Perhaps, again, the hon, tnd gal ant Member for Brixton was not Present when the Speech was made, t “Lieut. Colonel Lipton : 1 listened as carefully as I could to the speech of the Foreign Secretary, and 1 apologise if I did not catch that figure. However, the right hon. Gentleman has added one little crumb of information to the inadequate information provided in the White Paper. When the specch of the Foreign Secretary is carefully analysed, as it can only be carefully analysed when we see it in print tomorrow, the general public will see how very little he added to what was already known to anyone who has been following the matiet.: ei tities a ate 2 cae ; 1 now come to the semarks made t by _ the Foreign Secretary about Mr. Philby,- # but before dealing with them I will deal _ with the question of smear referred to by 1 my hon. Friend the Member for Cardiff, i West (Mr. G. Thomas), One of the things which deliberately encourages the spread- ine of what we all dealnese es ane VW Fugit We ai deplore anc xKiGWw a5 McCarthyism is the reluctance on the of the Government to disclose informa-. 48D 21 uae... MearteryrL carp RSbeo, ae oc Hae Ae .- Pre . . = RE SE ee © SRT RCE aes creates the very risks which we all want .. ae to avoid and which every decent-minded =? ere person deplores, the risk of suspicion and, - -; distrust in which McCarthyism flourishes, ~~. wen If only the Government had had We sake tion. The withholding of information :. = S| os: " Courage to take the people of this countsy - into their confidence four years agof r:*+-<- | There is nothing in the White Paper, except the disappearance of Mra, 7#??o* | Maclean, which could not have been dis-_ —— closed four years ago. As my hon. Friend” ” the Member for Coventry, East (Mr.’-- ot Crossman) pointed out, the Petrov _tial |: ; added fiitie of nothing to the known facts, *~ Nothing has happened in the past four Z cine ; years to suggest that it would have been - contrary to the public interest if this; -o- | While Paper ha been _Published ' four’ ar years ago," -r, eee ee ; CH wt mee Ts ie fa Avie aad Mr. Daines: Belore my hon. and Jant Friend leaves the case ‘of - o Phifby, I would point out that ia the’----~—~ course of a Question, which was greatly - —-- ~ o- publicised, he made what was tantamount... to a charge against that gentleman, The’ House is in a privileged position, and EF - - think that my hon. and gallant Friend -. -. owes it to the House to give the source : «+. of that information.” ° - ~ Lest Colonel Li pion: Y was as fayhog cece that the information given by the Foreign =~ <. Secretary in the course of todays debate sent has added little or nothing to what was'""“""" already known, and that it is the with.” ...- - ‘holding of information which creates ag, 3 atmosphere | of Suspicion and distrust.” and rams Mc. G. Thomas: Give the informatiod - Se and we Shall all be satisfied. > he 4 “fs ibe: | oo eee et rid . * PieutColone! Lipton: We had to wait, sansteine four years before the Government made wear a siatemeat. The hon. Member—~...2”" cet Mr. Daines: On a point of order.” My... Meee bon. and gallant Friend has made what, ~-<2%+- amounts to a charge against an individual. ----. -. who cannot defend himself in this Houses *—-- I repeat that he owes it to the House 49; z2a2~:- Rive the source of his information, should withdraw the charges 4 titi tur a ' Lheat.-Cofonel Lipton : The question of ae what I owe or do not owe to the House #" «7 > a matter not to be decided by my hod, 2 sexrar- Friend the Member for East Ham, North i. “3 requ. @th. dee ilin Bem. . Dis tn «Mr. Daines), but by the House as a whole at eee eee BAe Perit, Cm anlae 2nd she J 7 and wy FU, WAL. AE PUFA OR, GU se. ae * general public outside. . However. “det: ee ee rd ~ oe mae ogre Se