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. LAGAN DUE 80a CHE FTL December £20, 1939 Pade - 2 - wo Pa Pes ‘to Clothey, whose invesiicators will investi sie Gat of phoe List to determine whether they would be reiiabhle and would turn over any informatton to the orcanizcation, after which the necessary number of "stooges" would be selected. iie stcted that wil of these infornents would work without ony pay bestdes their regular wages. Clothey sata that no work has been done by the erdanization, but that they are still engaged in the work of oryuntzation; thet they anticipate that tt will take cbout three months Lefore they get started. ie satd that us soon GS GnYy revorts are received they conterplate turning bacm over to the #.B.0,. ifr, pistermun said that thece people told him definitely that it 18 not their intention to inuves- troute ani conplaint of esptonage or sabotage. I asked Tr. : der- stung our attitude in this nutter, that nadhing tie, nave ee fe ee catd @1ters Cur Utéws one denree. wre. Listerman stated that he made Avs Stang clear: — F amr of prvel connectlon with ite zt these people are enyared in G@ prevention proposition, but tb they covric not say how they could guarantee thet any sue yster would prevent any Lees of esptonare or sahotuce. le stated that they feel that we are engaved in the investigation of these natters, und that they are primarily interested in the prevention of any such occurrences. Mr, Listernan statec Lf ineutred how they account for the contention th. t the indusiriclists cun be saved “50,000 by reporting these matters dtrect hy the plant manavement to us. iT. Listerman satc that their contention is that the plent manare- ment woule never know about these things. They think that the employees would noe report these matters to the plant manayenent because of the unton proposition; that they are trying to 1et around this dipipiculty. Pr. Smith gute that thére is a possibilltty, eithaugh it aboht be disputed, thut some of the fuets, purticulerly of Suvotége, may not be within the Mecerel jJurtsdicttan, ttuing for an exrcnuple tire ctandcerd Oil tunks which are used for sterage. ife Salta that thei intend to inelude alli suéh matters 80 they cun prevect the ctty, in addition to protectine the plants wherein they have thetr "stooces".