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Robert K. Dornen w — continued Vahn: Yes, I found this to be slso trve, but the loyalties, the loyalties were so naive,.in almost all ectses,.there was such an mnewarenees of whet wis harnenins in Qussie on behalf of nmenv Americans espoused the Soviet syetem as a nanasea of sovernments and they were more ideslistic then realistic e¢ fer as “comosringe what they thoveht wovlda se a better America to whet they knew Russia to be. Dornan: There wee also..what Charlie Chaplin was critisized for Russia went trrovch two pmrtel years without our opening = second front...ond there were reonle critisizing him Tor thet..and Russia was ovr Mite eesireh an CRSTRVARTE horrible evil of concentration CAMPS. 1.0. (Tape turned off...vicks up at following point:) Subject under discussion...Algier Uiss... Dornen:...2 en an un-reconstructed Rew Dealer...(referring to quote from i,A. Times,verch 30. (Commercial) Dornan: It would be wrons for me to mention #-certsin persons name the only verson wnere I reristercd any shock. while coing throusch this list in the beek (referrise to Vohn's book)..this List gathered by House Un-“mericnn Activities Committee rasesrch Files thet we went tnrouch,.end he scaia well, env peeson weo anceered willinsiv wes one of tho friendiy witnesses, he iust not hive cared...his name is Lovd Bridres..{(Vern: ves)...2nd T said “Tov rq Bridges..,whe...he identified no one but hiuselt, that's interesting...and he finally named,.ene it duct seys...celf...He hed to furnish the Committee with an evonvtive Eoun—ctadereaas sworn stotement testifvine dote..that to his former C. Porty membershiv...it hes net been made public. Diseussicn then want to whr didn't more nersons do this..tell snout themselves.."Alricht, I'll teil you about nvself, but I'm net going to inform on ervhody else." Vehn seid menvy tried to, tried to mzxe som? kind of a Geel] like that Lillisn Heims (vhonetic..sy be wrong woes one that was suecessful. Comittee wes not orone to allow noanle to do this...thev wanted nanes...thet is whet they were always art Oles beginning in 1°38...they wanted names, nomes, names and more nemes.. elthovch they hed thesemres 1C or 15 tines. .alreaay idertified. Of course their recearchers found these nemes before thay were call before the committee, "Once vou enswered one question before the committee, that is once you seid you are a member of the Communist Farty.. fron then on..thet obligates to onswer further questions before the comuittee szbovt others." (tiene turned off) Dornan: JI don't want to be suilty of McCerthy tyve..guilt by associztic »ethere must be levels or desxrees..of evilt or essociation. The Rosenhergs were nut in the electric chair for selling secrets to tne Soviet Union and there went our Hucleer ete. ete. --------. The wry I reed their rationelizetion is the followine... The twa countries have it we cancel out,..-nd if 2% corrurt ecyemnent ever took it to use it..in cur country. Now vorten Sobel wes convicted salons “Ath the...enesped the death penalty ond is now lecturing at a high henor- =