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et foe. THE TODAY SHOW — BARBARA WALTERS INTERVIEWING MARILYN BAKER 10/7/74 BARBARA: Marilyn has written a story of the Patty Hearst case called "Exclusive" and there is information in it that is new and her own point of view is new. I think we should ask first of all before I sound like a television system, why you, how gome you know more than anybody else, the police, the PBI? 3 MARILYN: There is a simple answer, you said "Investigative Reporter,” that is redundant, a reporter should be an investigator but unfortunately we have all copped out, we now will cover press conferences. They were all sitting down at the Hearst home in Hillsborough, you know I didn't really have to be brilliant to figure out that Patty was not there. So lI never went to the Hearst home, I went out to look for her. BARBARA: You went to the places where the { ? } were and the FBI and the police didn‘t? MARILYN: The FBI was very worried about its public image, the Agents in the street were trying to do a good job but unfortunately, bureaucracy got in the way. The police departments were worried the FBI would get there first. Nobody cooperated with anybody and I ended up with just about everybody talking to me and a lot of help from my Son, Jeff. He went into the communes, etc. BARBARA: What do you know that nobody else knows. What do you know now that we don't know? MARILYN: Ok. First I know for a fact that Patty Hearst was not only a Willing participant in the bank robbery on April 15th but she was one of the leaders. We have some pictures that have never been shown to the public before. This first one shows a man down in the corner on the right hand side of your screen. That is the man that was shot. He was entering the bank. Patty in this particular picture has turned her gun on him she then lunges at him, Nancy Ling comes from around the corner of the door and shoots the man. BARBARA: Where did you get these pictures? ° MARILYN: Never ask sources, Barbara, you know that. OK this is the last picture. BARBARA: You always have to ask, you may not get answers but you always have to ask. MARTLYN: You can ask but you won't get an answer. This is theg last picture. It shows that the last two out of the bank; durffng the holdup were Patty Hearst and Donald DeFreeze. All thdg others had already left so if she really wanted to escapef she: could have then. 7-1 $2.00 3987 erin} ASURE bo-bn