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Oo - er BUREAU OF wvesTipagon® pe me 9/30/75 b 7C- Dote of transcription : 188 Winfield Street, Apartment & San Francisco, California, telephone (4159285 - 5463, was adv .' thereafter furnished the following information about™hinsele - and a man known to him as "PAUL": ——_ OS, advised that he resides with LUCAS ‘KIERS at ’ the above address and igs ed by KIERS as a helpér in KIERS* moving company. advised that on September 21,. 1975, at approximately 5 a.m., he returned to 188 Win- field and observed a white male adult standing in the kitchen . Speaking with KIERS regarding movement of that individual’ s household items later that day. fThistwhite male introduced . ; himself as "PAUL" and GEE ceccxibed him as being approx- ve imately 5'9" or 5*10*. about 27 to 28 years of age, brown hair, wearing light blue slacks} very neatly pressed Sports shirt, some type of a cap and, according ‘: was “very clean cut and ‘straight’ ‘Looking." a advised that as he and KIERS arrived at 401 Irvington Street, Daly City, the telephone rang and it appeared to be “PAUL“ with additional requests for items to be moved from 401 Irvington Street to 123 Lyon Street and one other ats address not known to a advised that KIERS spoke with "PAUL" on the ~ phone.’ then stated that they loaded the household items. in KIERS* truck and they proceeded _to 1837 San Jose Avenue, San Francisco. At that address, stated that, according to KIERS,..they were to leave a basket which appe d_ to con-~ _ tain as Sleeping bag and a box with a lid on it. advised ‘that 1837 ‘San“Jose Avenue was obviously a vacant house and so. they looked “into the box and discovered what appeared to him to be a“bomb, GRE ce scrives the device as a pipe, approxi- -. Mately twoxto: ree inches thick and approximately a foot or so long, to which was taped a clock which had .w running from the clock and into a hole in the pipe. matty «=: that '. KIERS then jerked the wires out of the pipe and after some dis- a a . ar ' : f < -« 13 7 - & A e cae § _ - y fo . “mtereed 9/24/75 | San Francisco, California... y SF 7-855 - 236 7>—. - Date dictated . This document contains neither recommendations nor conclusions of the FBI. It ig the property of the FBI and is s loaned to - your agency: it and its contents are not to be distributed outside your agency. - 36. a ae STS aT he i Wray ee meses Bape ee ’ ° 2