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se oe ae | port side of the ship at window number three. He stated that this is situated in the aft part of.the dining salon. He also recalls that Fritz Deeg and Max Hennerberg were also at windows in the dining salon. Be stated that at no time did he lean out of the window, and therefore his observation of the ship itself was quite limited. He recalls see~ ing the reflection of fire, but does not recall from what portion of the ship it seemed to emanate from. He also testified he heard the explosion at approximately the same time he noticed the reflection of flames and cannot recall exactly when he felt a jolt or vibration, but he does recall feeling a strong vibration which threw him headlong in- to a corner along with dher passengers as well as objects of furniture. He stated further that he cannot recall the exact solor or texture of fleme or the reflection of flame, but that his mind is at blank except that he recalls he jumped from the ship at the time that the zeppelin was from ten to twelve meters above the earth. He informed further that he experienced nothing unusual prior to the feeling of the jolt or vibration, or prior to the observation of the reflection of fire or the fire iteclf. He informed that insofar as he was concerned the trip from Germany had been normal in every respect and had been most satisfactory insofar as operative and mechanical phases were concerned. He also stated that at no time did he hear any discussion amongst the passengers or crew concerning faulty mechanical condition, and also testified that he heard airplanes circling in the sky at the time that the Hindenburg passed over land in America, but that the an- tics of none of these ships gave him any concern whatsoever. He testified that he could give no helpful information to the Board of Inquiry as to the ca se of the fire or the accident it~ self, and further, that he heard no unusual] sounds prior to being con- scious of the explosion or blast. The next witness to appear before the Board of Inquiry on May 13, 1937 was WERNER FRANZ, cabin boy, who resides in Frankford, Ger- many. He is U, years of age and was a mewber of the German crew that was operating the Hindenburg on May 6, 1937. He informed that at the time of the accident he was sta- tioned in the officer's mess. Further, that he could see out of the eee ee ee