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RE: JOHN L, LEWIS, ET AL. as 7 63, D. ~ INTERVIEW “{1TH was interviewed Bpegiel sconts , —— ond (ious relatod his sto a oloar minner, and oppears to reoall woll ovunta :‘ N around the timo of tho strikae It is folt that ho would be 6 sitisfuotary , witness to testify to thoso mttors sct out in tho folldwing etatoment \ which hc oxcoutods "Springficld, Tllinois ry Bcptombor 1, 1943 ‘ "I, % Pa make. tho fol lowing tS voluntary stutement tcf oe who hive idontie fied thomselvcs o6 SpeoiGi agents in tho Fedorei Buroau of Investigations No threats or promises havo bocn mado to mo to induce me to make this statemente ; "T wus born e. 4 nnd cane to ‘the U. Ss ir I become a Ue & e I first joinod the UsMa've ir and hove never hold any offices in any uniang "] joined P.Nen. Im 1932 when ol) the rest of tho miners joinode 4s I remonber P.MeA. started aftcr U.M.iv. had tried to got ua to work fur lces money. ‘io hed a voto and the ballots wore stolon and the clootion was nc go0de Alsc working scnditions wora not too gocd and the men wanted a new unione After P.Mwie started things soomed better at the minca. I dc not renember whet the men's fcolings wore when somo nombors of P.Mere wore sonviotod in the “a Tg O1SE86 wah Bet "TONY PLOTCH, FRANK AUSTIN,” TACATIAY, Yowy, BOHANION, JOHU_ SINTOUT and sane othsrs who So olongod tS Pillans word supposed to bo crkers for U.ief. Y hoard that these non wore working for U.M.i7. cfficicls but they novor approached mos IT know that theso non wore kiokad out of P.Matie beonuse thoy were working for UMM "I rencnber thet our oontraooct with Mino B, whore I hod worked aince 1926, oxpirod in tho spring of 1937 end we were working uncer on | extension, “fe wert suppcsed to get paid deck woges in ckse the new ocntraot oalled for higher wages, thie is what MwA. cffioors told us thet we would got the now rate from april Le. after we hod worked for # a while SLSHOFF refused te sign 4 contraate a "l uttended ame of tho P.M.A. motings and I wis at a noeting a when a trial] wis held ond some of the non I nentioned before as werking ' for U.Meie wort kicked onte As I rencnber, wo hid a roguler neoting > and after this, three or four mcn wore tppolnted to a kind of trial biome _