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JOHN L, LEWIS, ET aL. bd bw INTERVIEW WITH “about in the summer of 19.0 CaaS told me I had better sign up wi that was all that was said or done. f "Also about that same time Oscar Falcetti tgld me to show We rvs in the mine. One time when BilljSurtock and I were to- gether, Bill told BR ep: still 8 Frogréssive and to watch out for him, lieve with other motormen who were PMA but wm: hee TF RRO eee ee Oe after he rode witm:hem they became UMy, ou cannot remenver this very well. The other motormen were names whose name J] cannot spell, and a man name and one name "Qn the day before I was hurt which would be Dec. 30, 1940, I was working in a room as a coal digger, I sav someone go by my room, I asked _him what time it was but he wouldn't answer me. A fev minutes later I saw him with a sheet next to his head and a pick handle under his arm, I recognized him as ‘Cudge' or 0, L. Bumgarmmer, or Baumgartner, I am not certain as to the spilling. But I cannot remember any UMW man trying to talk me into joining UMW that aay. "On Dec. 31, 1940, I went to work as uspal-and went to om. 1 Some time just before noon a driver notified an PMA committeemen that they were wanted at the district and that was the t I saw of them that day. They were the entrymen nearest me. At about noon sheet, just like tCudget had been carrying the day before that, This man whe a I am positive was gCudge' started beating me with the pick handle. He iy broke my arm and jaw and really messed me up. ‘*Cudge' was a UMW organizer, and only once before had he tried to talk me into joining UM. "As a result of the beating I was in the hospital about two weeks or more_ I never returned to Mine _(B' after Dec. 31, 1940. \ “ihen the National Labor Relation Board held an election in about | Feb, of 1041 I voted PMA but UMY won, J never had anything to do with Mine 'B! after that. I still belong to the PMA and pay my dues, but I have never worked in a mne since Dec. 31, 1940, I stay in the wiion because I like the group and because I like the democraticness of the organization, oy Mihen I went back to Mine 'B! in Nov. of 1939, I heard there S had been some fires but I never saw anything to show there had been a big fire. There had been some small cave ins but I noticed no wnusual cave-ins, JI never signed anything for Uli after 1932. I beliave I signed a membership card for PMA in the summer of 1940. ~ 308 = he ae et A I heard some one coming and as I locked up I saw someone with a pick handle and | \e a