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¢ ° a? Re: JOHN L. LEWIS, ET Al INTERVIE.: GITH (Ti: Lill M. RYAN he, RYAN, had no faithgin ELSHORT's (continued) a word or, particulurly, his financial ability to meet his obligations, Later on 7 C it was kr, RYAN'’s understandin; t ELSHOFF obtained a much better d the Peabody Car) Comweny, who have always opera et a at are Eaited Mine “orkers. It was his unders anding that ELSHOPF obtained a commission We OI SOY Watch would have been highly srofitable inasmuch as the usual com- {* mission is not more than 12¢ or 15¢ a ton. Hr, BRYA purchase fanthar Grok Mine from its owner, GnORGH LOUD. ELSHOST also ~~ spoke to lir. RTA! about the possible purchase of dnother wine located in Southern Illinois in Sone County, which was organized by the rrogressives, Mr, RYA advised that ELSHOF attempted to puvchase another Frosressive mine located in Fulton Younty. He said that these negotiations were probably carried on with a person by the name of BOSYROUK of Pulton County. wt that ELSHOFF .t that time had attempted to Tne information concerning the alleged mecting o “ULLIVAN and ELSHOFF imacdiatzly 2 Jarged upon by Ur. RYali. aS ST TUITE At Sale Thad yg Fall, Laas frit was not en- dential source as to its reliability. Perhaps the most pertinent thing discussed with Kr. RYAN was his conversation with Bun ED Tung. Ourly in 1937 concernin: collaboration with the United Wine workers in their or; ganizati mal efforts in Hine "4". Mr. RY. steted that EDMUNDSON called him doyi to lis office in the United Mine “workers “uildinz and after discussin: zeneral uetters finally came to the point of the intervier, askinz ik, RTA What he thought of the United Mine workers. Ur. RYAN's answer wes more ‘less non~comiuttal es he stated he on hat nothing against the United Mine “érkers, and then EDIDTUNSO:’ countered with the proposition that he, RYAN, @nter_ into some sort of an a-reenent or deal with EDM SON aa order that + = could yc é frogressives out of Mine "4". RYai! then told ED? VIDSOU hat he could not do such a thing that he wanted to "go to bed at no ant with ea clear conscience*. EDIMUNDSO:: then asked whet RYAN th uzht that GzOR LIVAN at Panther Creck or another // Ss operator at some other Progressive’Mine would do along those lines. RYAN ; | me OE told EDMUIDSON that he would have to see CLORGN SULLIVAN to find out about: ; ‘ that, that he was running Mine "4" and that he could not and would not enter into an, such proposition, ' From Ly, RYAN's ¢ nversation with EDMINDSON, RYAll received the f definite impression that if he we.-e out any expense durinz the organizational/ effort of the United Mine sorkers, EDNUNDSON would t-ke care of him, ur. | fa stated that he told EDEUNDSON that he wouldn' t have anything to do with - 451 « SS etm oe Stes ae LE ER Ey I 8