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Re: JOW Lt. zur, ET al. ly “) i> INTERVIEW WITH oe at his residence, Illinois, on September 3, .° 1943. we appeared willing to answer the questions put to him, and said he would be willing to testify to the facts as set forth in the following Signed statement which he submitted. He can neither read nor write, Lear Illinois September 3, 1943 make the following voluntary state- ment to q ee ok “ whom I kiow to be Special Azents o restipavion, U, S. Department of Justice. "YT was bor. eas first joined the United Mine ‘Jor! America, which wi referred to hereinafter as Usi, at Tll. & worked at the mine near & "TI worked in four mines from mercer the UY until I started at Hine 'B' in 1933 under the’ rogressive Mine .orkeers of America which will be referred to hereinafter as the PMA. "I was a coal digger for the first year at ‘fine ta! and then worked a: @ I am presently employed 4 ee "T have never held an office in a mine wiion, tis far as I am concerned I liked the PIA and was satisfied with its leaders. as far as I know there was no dissatisfaction between the Pou yank and file and PMs leaders, "J went to many Ulti meetings because I was fined if I didn't but I only went to a few Pi meetings because of the distance from my home. "TJ know rothing about the relations between Elshoff and PMA prior to 1937. ~gl- we ee me mg me er ee er ee ce te ee pe ee