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bic 697 Td Lae epocial agin a na VOT rvic at rs roma : wy IN caV IE. 7: ZF On Siem Sprinzficld, Tliinois. 1s : ad no criminal record. Tt was noted during he interview that this man's recollection of pertincnt s«vents was very hazy, that because of his woor understanding of the Enzlish Language fic did not know a vreat deal about whet happened at union meetings and whet he was told there. cooper. tive and is believed reliaple. 3 + He was entirely It is feit that due to his lack of understanding and recollection hc would not be a ; & good witness. At the tine of this inturviey siyned stetement “ssi : . geve the following sted as an interpreter. "Soringfield, Ill. Sept. 4, 1943 we H , the following ste to mo vent te ficld, Ill. give : ho arc known to be vpec. agent of the c&ts or promises heve nmede me to get mi to -ive this stetement. Io wes born in “ap . came to U. 5. i: i pd became: a U.S. citizen i as T jeined the U.N. virst in . and came to U.S, vhere mo was good, J nuver he ld 2 union office. J have been at line "B" about yrs. as a cuf@l digver. Before 13932 Elshoff and the aoe got a T changed over ta "F Nade beesuse the majority ve et H ~ rT oy 4 at that + Between 1932 and the time th: mine closed tiers was no trouble betuio wn: Elshoff and the Pilla. Elshoff inde no remarks concerning the Pw... at that tiase. Tne miners were always satisfied with the Plige. To went to the ucetings while we had a Progressive union. I was seatisficd with the wa; money matters were hendled by the P.I.... I don't know anything about the inocense of the P.lw.. miners sent tv jail for bombing. guilt or Ate aa V3203 ant 1029 the FHopow Asa omat Roatleor tha J tw we the le Fee Ci dk ee DE the. Welae . Raha dd I lide go elimina aid aly wa; g2 fur as I know "T don't know of any vertics held by Elshoff for the U.IL 7. in this period, NT don't know of any scics in the P.M... who wors working for U.EAY, "Nobody sid any thin: to the men SO fer as I knov about the con tract which rin vut in the Spring of 1937. cc thought we woid get back pay and when we didn't we didn't go hack, night before the mine shyt down, I did not attend any reeting the when IJ went to wors the morninyp of -12¢- ee ee ee Ce ec os ee a a ee