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C. ¢« RE: JOEN L. LEVIS, ET AL 19 Cc” Vv pip ‘TERVIEN WITH wes 15 et Illinois & I never have been an officer. I had Wa 420 Deen ct Jefferson Mine before going to Mine B & had been with P.M.4. there. Up till Mine B closed I never heard of any trouble between PuA & ELSHOFF. No one tried to mke me turn over to U.M.7. before Mine B closed & 1 never heard of anyone wanting to get rid of P.M.k- there at Mine B before it closed in 1937. As far as I know P.M.4s. men got slong with P.M.A. officials. I went very seldom to PoM.A. meetings. I don't kmow if P.M.4. men or officials ran the union then. In regerd to P.MeA. men sent to jail all I know is whet I saw in the papers & I don't kmow if they were guilty or not. I don't mow & thing about money affairs of P.M.A. & I don't think they took out any more than any other union did. Tf don't know if F.M.a. officials made reports of the money & I don't imow if they stole any or not. Before Mine B closed I never sow U.M.W. picket Mine B & I never saw U.M.7. give out litereture & no one asked me to join over to U.k.7. I never heard of any parties between ELSHUFF & U.M.t. It makes no difference to me which union I belonged to just as long as I got the union scale & that is ell I a. interested in. I con't recell of P.Moi. working without « contract at Mine B before it closed in 1937 & I never heard or knew of anyone telking or comsinining 2bout the wages a money peid them. 1 don't remember if I wont to a meeting the night before Kine B closed or not es I very seldom went to eny meetings & I clso em hard of hearing. I was not at Kine B when it closed in 1937 es I was sick for e few days before but IT heard about it being closed from other men. I never heard or kmow of any men being expelled from P.M..e During summer of 1937 I never signed any petitions for P.Musse or U.M.i. & just stayed home. I never heard of any men from Mine B going to work at the Jefferson Mine. JI never heard & still don't know why Mine B wes closed down. I don't know if I heard ebout Mine B going to reopen in fell of 1937. But J did not go out during sit down strike at ell. I got a job on Petes. & I don't know when that wes. I don't kmow nothing ebout anything about the strike & I shouldn't have talked at ell in the first place. I ain't going to sey enything more, Nobody told me not to ssy a thing & I just don't want to sey anymore about it. I gusss what I have staid is the truth tut I don't kmow. I don't want to get in trouble or lose my job. I just feel thet in my bones & that is ell.” "Soringfield, 111 Bept. 8, 1943 effirmed that the information herein was correct and true and as he old 4t to agents." 8 Special Agent F.B.I. (Milw.) Specicl Agent, F.E.I., 8t. Faul, Minn. -254- - Be gene gh PD aPMEp Er a a emt gare Sut ren ga ee A re Tg ee ge em oe Fr