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INT The following inve stigation wae oon- ducted Special agents ere seeeeeeme and t Springfield, ols, on S-lb= 43. «at his residen Springfield, Illinois, agents interviowed who advised he has no sriminel reoorde It wes no+.7 tha 8 Ta literate and although he understood tho questic.s his cnswers were 3 in a very low tore of volioe and it is : at dee 2040 G6 WOVAS DOES a Vey pe Wi Wlons we He furnished the following statement but enid he would not sign it unless he roally had to and inasmuch os he wos told it wos up to him to deoide whether or not he wanted to sign the samo he scid he would not sign it but that it wis truce retest ee et aed ngiataa, ah Soptomber 15, 1943. "|, RR, give tho following informotion to es identified themsclvos to mo as Spe “aon «Bel. No threots or promises have boon made mo tc give this information & I om giving it of my own free will. | ST ees born in nee, | lt, i Wea bo Sik ddd wm we. vv Ves + EE became o oitizen in a in Springfield, Tie I huve been at Mino 4 8 yeurs & I'm still there ne o diggere In 1952 I wont PoNwae 08 I bolieved it wos the best union thene Now it don't mako any difforenoo to whot union I belonge I hoard thet ELSHOFF hud bot Mine 4 when tho time eame to open up in tho foll of 1941. It didn't muke any difference to me whet hoppened. I heard fran cther miners wo would have to join U.M.v. if wo wanted to go baok to worke IJ was antisfied with both P.M. & UM. & At didn't make any diffcronce what union wos theros No ome iaked me then to join over to UsMelfe I nover hoard thut EBLSHOFF would take ool out thru Mine B fram Mino Ae I nover heard that ELSHJFF would olose Mine « unless it wos U.M.We I attonded onc meoting ut PeMele hall & thoy hod an argument thero & talk was as to whether wo would gc bagk to work or not & I think thoy decided to go baok whethor undor P.Hehe or UH. & I don't rooull if ony camittocs woro made ts I don't undorstund things very wolle I did not attond any mocting ot Elks Club or at Redmants Halle I signed up for U.M\WJe buck at Mino & when it resoponcdse Since U.MeliWe his boon baok at Mine 4 things cre just the sano fur mo as they were wmdor P.dJiwwe I had to sign up with U.M.We 2s the Mince A wos thot way and in order to gu to work I had to join up as the loocl wont thit way I hoard altho I did not vote over thot woye I did not mow thoro wore tc bo any nectings ot tho Elks Club & ot Redmoan's Hull. «as for I om omoorned just so I huve a job is ol] I oare for & it don't matter which union is there fur nes I have — &nn .