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Fe: JOHN L, LB:1S, ET AL. Progressives. They said no, that thoy just wantod to find out about their jobs at‘}Hine 4, | ——_ "a do not recall exacly what happened at the first necting we hold after that. It was held at the Progressive Hall. I do not think thet a meeting was held at Redmen's hall. I knor that and these others, and othsr mon talked at the mécting about the entry being driven fron line B into Mine 4, and tho possibility of mining Mine 4 from mine B. They said then that they did not think that we would be able to get our jobs back because of tat. They said that they thought that if we joined the United Winc Torkers, that Itinc A vould be reopencd and not be mined through ‘Hine B. I do not recall that they quoted anyone as having said that, bot that was the general concensus of Spinion. It Was common knovledge that the entry was being driven fron B to... At that necting a comzittee ras elected to go to see Elshoff and find out vhat Was going to happen to Mine 4, I do not reeall who vas on that conmittec. I know J tas elected to the exmittec. It vas to mect at the union hall at 1OAM on one day, and ¥2 vere to all go out together. “hon I got to the hall, tro of committee had already gone out, because they thought that the Ui Yas going to kcep then fro. going at 10, a Ph. board nonber, but not a nenber of local #51 went, and goneonc -e I do not recall vho that was, I do not know what results they had in their conference vith Elshoff, I do not think they saw Zlshoff, but did sec Falcetti. I do not recall that Faleetti told thon. "ay the next necting, EE 23 talked to all of the men. They all thought that they rould not jet their jobs. back, and their was a lot of trouble keeping order at the necting. 11 of the en seened all set to po over and join the UF. then. + do not think that there vere more than about 30 3f us tho rere not. There was no violence at that meeting, but there Was a lot of confusion. I do not recall the details, J do not think anything else happened until the meeting of the nen at the K of c hall. J did not go to that necting, because I kner it tas to join the Wf, and I had said that I vould never join the iy. "I had intended to go back to Work at Itine A thon it reopened, Tihen the local went UM, I vould not g2 back, because now tha could not work under those conditions, I had heard about that had happened at Hine B and how the company had favored Wh menbers, and kner that I vould not be able to get a food rom, . track, etc., if I rent to vrork at Mine A wider the sane company, so I : did not fo back. J thought my rights hed been violated, and taking away nyr right to work at ttinc &£ under the conditions that I could work thare, q = 469 -