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6 0 RE: JOHN L. LEVIS, ET AL INTEOVIE, WITH voted with the majority, and when Elshoff took oharge of the mine in the Fall of 1941 I joined the UMY. Wo one continued spoke to me to get me to join, but out at the mine I heard ; the miners say they were joining the UMN, so I did too, in order to keep my job. "I stopped working at Mine A because of my health and age. I liked the ULM and the PMA, I do not favor either one ever the other. "I never heard that Elshoff would favor the UMW over the PMA. I do not know of any telk among the miners that they would have to join UMW be- cause of Elshoff. All I know was thet the men seemed to want to change over to the UL, so 1 did, "I attended none of the PMA meetinzs at the PMA Hell or the meet~ ings at the Redman' Hall or Elke Club, Springfield, Illinois * s. Ty pecisl Agent F.B.1." - 485 ~