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an ay e@ (Mount Clipping in Space Below) FA (Indicat2 page, name of newspaper, city and stzte.)} Character: . Of Classification: Submitting Olfice: COUNCIL Continued from A1 one, Frankel said. “There may be something they can do with your time, place and manner on some of these things,” he added in a telephone interview from his Philadelphia office. “You cannot do it on content.” thought about. “That’s what we want,” she said. “It helps us make our decisions.” Fenton called the Zucco-imposed ban censorship. “It’s a violation of my constitutional rights,” he said in a telephone interview-from his home. “Nobody cares but me, ” But Councilman Brian Subich said the ordinance is not intended to keep people out. Instead, it is meant to keep civility and hold discussions to The vagueness of the ordinance : '/*, Shynah city business. also invites problems, he said. i Councilmen . . “Someone who comes in and says For instance, Frankel wanted to ', Supported Zucco’s some of the stuff Mr. Fenton said is } know, who determines what’s offen- nt} : 5 ‘ way off the mark,” Subich added ina sive or insulting speech, action to ban Fenton, telephone interview from his office. The statute probably could be who.called Murtha Subich agreed that offensive and defeated in court, he added. “You can’t silence those you dis- agree with or those who disagree derers” in a previous address to council, from speaking. Councilwoman Nancy Malloy said speakers should not be allowed to give insulting or offensive remarks. “T don’t think anyone should be able to talk about any elected or nonelected official, past or present,” she said in a telephone interview from her home. The purpose of citizens speaking at a meeting is to convey information, Malloy said, adding that city resi- dents have a right to share their opinions. Sometimes they shed light on other ideas that council hadn’t and ore of his aides “murderers” in a _ insulting remarks can be seen in dif- * , ferent ways by different people. The ordinance, he said, should be used in ' - with you,” he added. “To hold public {. “very rare” cases. \ ‘office, you can’t have thin skin.” “ previous address fo oo “It was put there before (we were | Councilmen supported Zucco’s council, from ~ ? eleeted),” he added. action to ban Fenton, who called . : “We have the right to use it.” Murtha and one of his aides “mur- SP eaking. Zucco imposed the ban during '.:; Wednesday’s council meeting. Fenton was scheduled to speak, but did not attend the session in the Johnstown Public Safety Building. ‘ Neither Zucco nor Johnstown Solicitor Dick Green could be reached for comment. Manager Kilduff said this is the first time the ordi- |" * nance had been used to ban speakers at meetings during ‘ his year and a half working for the city. He was unsure if it had ever been used before and didn’t know what prompted the ordinance to be 7 enacted. FRI/CWwWO) _ail