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H i : i + has been to hie hon with Karpis and that on all occasions when Barker hap. 7) ao thought and another look at the picture of Miller, he stated thet he recalls that be met Mason whom he recognized as Verns Miller a year or 80 ago inale ey roadhouse a few miles from St. Poul, Minnesota, the name of which he coul@ not. . rerembere Farmer was asked for particulars of this meeting and he said: that he was in St. Paul attempting to get the crap shooting concession at this roadq ae house and during the course of his stey in Ste Paul made frequent tripe there; * that on the occasion of the first meeting with Mason there were several mn in the crow whose names he did not remember end they were sitting around aye: table and that there was some drinking; that he is certain that he aay Mason ©. 4 on two or more cecasions at the same poadhouses Numerous photographs were — ye presented to Farmer and he recognized the photograph of Bernard Phillips a8 ~*. one of the men he saw in company with Mason at the time of the meeting in the cote, - poadhouss near Ste Pauls He stated that be recalls that someone in the crowd said thet Bernard Phillips was a motorcycle policemn fram some city the nam: of which he does not definitely recall, but he believes it was Chicago, amd = that Phillips was said to be operating with some gang out of Chicago, Illinol@e - He said,to the best of his recollection,be saw Phillips some two or three tims - around this roadhouses He did not know what name Phillips ‘was using but he = ~ wo believes he was referred to as “pig something or other, probably *Big Bill.® ys Farmer denied that he has seen Phillips or Mason singe =. + eer ener wit. et “ During the conversation with Farmer he was asked if he knows Fred Barker end 9 .°. fe stated that he doose He said that he has known Fre¢@ Barker and his brothers. Doc and Herman, the letter being dead; thet several years ago be, Farmr, ||: about 1920 as nearly a8 he recollects, was operating a taxt line at Picherg °* ~ Oklahoma, and that on occasions Fred Barker, who was then a mere poy in his . { - teens, would drive one of his tazicabse He was asked if Barker ism any way / related to him and he said that he is not, but thet for a time hig, Fermer'#, mother took care of Fred Barkere ‘Farner explained thet this was several years agose He stated that he knows Barker has & bad reputation and is known ap @ killer; that Barker ie frequently accompanied by sivin Earpis end that ‘Barker . - ‘ been et his home he hes told him not to came there; that Barker hes not been to | his home for practically « year and be hes not seen him within that time end does not know where he is located noWe He said, hovever, that wherever Barker «|. 4s living bis mother is with hime Fe said that Barker's father is living at. Upon the injection of the name of Barker into the conversation, Farmer appearea - to manifest some intereste During the latter part of the interview Farmer, os made the remark, scomingly to himself, “I wonder if Barker could be associated with Verne Millere® He also remarked thet be wondered whether Barker could be“ mized up in the Union Station massacres It was apparent from these remarks Bi made by Farmer concerning Barker and from his attitude gince he was teken into — “gustody thet he was adroitly and cleverly trying ¢to advance som suggestion or ed theory in this pattere It is obvious from Farmer's atti wide that he does not