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7 CI 44-1249 3 ef 4...4 sles i ee ee ee The andiviaual slowly hb CB LEV AVL £24 Ui peneath his jacket, which was yaken by one of the plain~ clothes individuals previously mentioned. He observed this person flip the cylinder open on the weapon, which he thinks opened to the right. As the cylinder was opened, the individual stepped to the side, and said, "There are two spent cartridges", orvords to that effect. He noted that he did not see the cartridges himself, as he was not close enough to the individual to make out details regard- ing the weapon. oo The two plainclothesamen then led the individual who had produced the gun away, and he has never seen any of these persons again. ; . wa added that he recalls the gun as being a snub- 1 nosed revolver, which was nickel or chrome plated. He noted ‘ that he owns a snub-nose .38 caliber Colt revolver, and this ‘weapon appeared to be about the same size as his. He noted that the next day, he saw an article which had appeared in the Akron, Ohio "Beacon-Journal" newspaper, which indicated that the person who had the revolver was named TERRY NORMAN. He noted that he does not know this individual personally, although he has seen several news~ paper articles in which NORMAN was mentioned with regards to +. the events at KSU on May 4, 1970. GE continued that the ONG trooper who had allowed the individual through the line was named QR erra (phonetic), who was released from the ONG shortly these events duc to the expiration of his enlistment. He noted that QB ives somewhere near Wooster, Ohio. He also noted that he does not desire to farnish the names of other members of the ONG who were present during the above events, as he has discussed this matter with them, and they have requested that he not do so in eiaw at oorrent Vawentite fn whieh some af fham havea hean WoT We Wee hk le ee LT ed Re ter ee Fri deeb td Se ae fwe eed dh RA ee er ere mamed as principals. He noted that all officers of the ONG who were present at KSU in May, 1970, were named in various lawsuits which have been filed in regard to this Matter. He noted that inasmuch as he has promised these persons that he would not involve them, he does not desire to do so at this time, noting that their names would be available from other sources, including the ONG Armory at ~ -—/{F- ly SRI Ses Pe Peed eae pet ey La