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August. 19, 1947
CRISMAN would see him after lunch, LANTZ stated that about noon DAHL and
CRISMAN contacted him at which time DAHL stated that he and his son had been
exploring a gravel pit on Maury Island and found some strange rock formations.
He stated they picked up some of these samples and that FRED CRISMAN later
saw them and they went back over to Maury 4sland at which time additional
samples were obtained and that CRISMAN sent these to a friend of his at the
University of Chicago to have analyzed, They stated that they received a
report and that apparently this friend had asked a newpaperman to find out
where the rock formations were obtained. CRISMAN and DAHL told LANTZ that
sometime after the first. flying disc story had appeared, they received a tele-
gram from Trans-Ocean Press from Chicago wanting infomation on the flying
disc fragments. FRED CRISMAN stated that they had at no time indicated-the
rock forma tions were a part of a flying disc and that Captain EM MITH and
KENNETH ARNOLD were not. interested in the rock formations and they denied
giving them to SMITH and ARNOLD,
TED MORRELLO, a United Press Wireman, Tacoma, Washington
furnished substantially the same information that was obtained from. PAUL LANTZ,
the Tacoma Timées.reporter, regarding the anonymous phone calls which he had
received, He stated further that the first call he received was on Friday,
August 1, at around 5:30 P, M.. At this time the caller stated. that the B-25
which crashed at Kelso, Washington was carrying disc fragments and that the
two officers killed were Captain DAVIDSON and Lieutenant BROWN, officers with
Army A#2 Intelligence at Hamilton Field and that the fragments were top secret
material. He stated the caller indicated that when the Army released the names
of the dead officers it would verify that the information he was furnishing was
correct. MORRELLO stated that: the second call he received at’ approximately
6:45 P. Me. Friday, August 1 at which time the caller stated that the B=25 was
definitely shot down and that if he contacted Army Intelligence A=-2, the man
in charge would not deny it. MORRELLO stated he thought the man said to con-
tact Colonel GUYS, but it was found out it was. Colonel GREGG who was in charge
of Army Intelligence A=2. The caller further stated that the Sheriff's Office
had been kept away from the crash and that no civilians had been harasses near
the plane. MORRELLO stated the third call he received at 5:30 P. M., August 2,
and that this time the caller stated that one of the men who had heer conferring
with Captain SMITH and KENNETH ARNOLD was taken to Alaska that day. The caller
further stated that the B-25 was shot down from the air with a 20 mem. cannon;
that the Marine plane found recently on Mt. Rainier had also been ‘shot down;
hat Captain SMITH would be teken to Wright Field Tuesday morning and that a
United. Airlines pilot by the name of MORGAN flew with Captain SMITH when they
were shot at over Montana. The daller stated he was Leaving for San Francisco
id would. be back Tuesday.
PAUL LANTZ and TED MORRELLO both stated that..they had-made
effort to* question the anonymous caller to obtain his identity as
useless and that if they started questioning him he, would
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