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a 0-:9 (Rev. 11-36-65) Ri alaalan: Vs — NiGIOUHET R: Conrad —— Tolson CeLoach Mohr Casper Callahan - Gale By “ Barnes -. sen 4 ne : rete. Room Robert — Penn "Warren in 1ter- | » -¢Nat heing | Holmes nity.” (Not being a poet, ag “is ‘ewed-2 man named | ae: Warren, 1 find it hard to conceive Gandy in June 1964, and I Belpedto in- ae name in January 1965.. I phrase it ‘Warren's account, I almost won- dered if we had interviewed the same man. Of course, the differ- ence was really in the interview- pei in their attitudes and assump- ons. i Warren was born and raised man, believed te vege gated int , believed in ten ie spent much of his Hfe the and as a wer and teicher is now against segregation. Stigred by the Negro upsurge, he wanted to tind out more about what Negroes think. So he set to iew many of them his book] Who Speaks for t hey Ne- gro? | Random House, 1965) ¥ _ approach is that of a liberal.’ = Ome of his favorite questions of the people he interviewed was did they think that it would have been, a@ good idea to have compensated the Confederate slaveholders for. the slaves emancipated; he seemed to hit it off best with those who said it would have been a good -> ides, He evidently was smart "> enough to omit this question with Malcolm, or at least he doesn't ae Waren goes to the Hote The- | : resa jn Harlem for ns ined byl we De Uda ated ct with ‘Maleolm. “I am sdmifted by! a strpng-looking young sNegro-_ man, dressed impeccably 3 he: is silent but watchful, smooth-! faced, impassive, of ominous dig- | a dignity that is “ominous.”) Mal- terview a msn with the 0 ee 8 iemtty tne irene hand, “with the slightest hint of a smile,” War- ren looks him over: . “The most striking thing, at ‘first about that face is a sort of stoniness, a rigidity, as though beyond all feeling. When the lips move to speak you. experience a faint hint of surprise. | When — as 1 discover later —- he scores a point and the face suddenly breaks into his characteristic wide, leer- ing, merciless smile, with the powerful even teeth gleaming beyond the very pale pink lips, the effect is, to say the least, startling. But beyond the horn- rimmed glasses always the eyes are watching, pale brown or hazel, some tint of yellow. You cannot well imagine them closed in sleep.” Felt Dismissed “After the handshake, he turns to his aide . ... I am, for the moment, dismissed, and wander across the room, inspecting it.” « . , as he stands there across the expanse of bare, ill-swept floor, conferring with the ominous attendant... I am watching him, and he knows I am watching him, but he gives no signa.” Malcolm's failure to give a sign that he knows Warren is watching him Is clearly as sinister as the “attend- ant” has now become. ‘Finally’ Malcolm beckons Warren into the tiny room used as his office. “Malcolm X tells me that he has only a few minutes, that he has found that you waste a lot of time with reporters and then you don’t get much space.” The Washington Post and Times Herald The Washington Daily News ____e_ The Evening Star New York Herald Tribune New York Journal-American New York Daily News New York Post The New York Times The Baltimore Sun And so the interview begins. It seemed somewhat different The Worker he Va a Leoder _ (Od bb - 39937 /; The Wall Street Journg! —___ when Barry Sheppard and I inter- NOP PR CORDED Pe National Chserver viewed Malcolm in the same of- 191 FEB 241966 Peorte’s Yerla [ fice on Jan. 18, 1965, a month be- pate _2/ 21/66 fore his assassination, Cur inter- _ THE MILITANT -. view was taped for the Young Soe“ PAGE 3 (March-April, 1995, alsajn a the pamphet, Maleoim X Taiks to me ae ‘| Young People, Young Socialist ; Pamphlet, 1965.) f f° comand L. ” PTT eg ) an THe