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(Grand Rapids File 100-4460) ~ July, 1943. ' SEEPS Was again interviewed by the writer at the Cleveland Field Division. It was noted on this occasion that he was wear. ing @ small metal button, blue in color, upon which was a crescent with 6 white dot and under it the word "Allah", At that time he stated that be became a member of the MOTRISH SCIENCE TEMPLE in August, 1941 and although he had gone to the Tenple three or four months before joining it, he ad- mitted he was not a member when he registered for the Selective Service in October, 1946. He stated that he had seen NOBLE DREW ALT when he wae in Cleveland in 1928 and that in January, 1941, he started going to the Temple regularly. BEY advised that prior tc association with the MOORISH SCTENCE TE had attended a Moorish Church in the vicin~ ity of 75th and Woodland, However, he did not like that or,anizetion as they wanted him to use an ancient Moslem name, He stated that the MOORISH SCIENCL TUMPLE was the religion he wanted. He advised that upon reading the Koran, he became fully "conscious". He advised that the Moorish Amer- icans who are not members of the MCORISH SCIENCE TEMPLE are not conscious and are mentaiiy dead. tated that if he rece:ved an induction no advis mY. He added that he uad discussed wit the filing cientious objector form, st which t marked tha BEY was @ bright student to declare hinse was “ve ,ous". He advised he secured the for h the aszie- “tance 5 merere dit out. He stated tha told him who was the one wnor relied on for religi ace and where the home office of the organization was located, RY advised that the conscientious objector form was in error where that he was 6 member eince August, 1940 as he did not become # member until 1941. BEY advised that all of the books and Literature upon which he depended for instruction were those which were presented to the writer at this intervicw, name the Holy Koran and the question and anawer instruction bo stated that he was opposed to subnitting in regard to the Army an bed submitting as putting one in a position where one did not think for himself—-in other words, that you would be ordered and told what to do. He said he wags against the principles