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National Security Letters — Part 1
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LUNGREN:
And I just -- I'l tell you this, I talked with Mr. Mueller yesterday -- because I've known
him for 30 years. He's "Mr. Fix It." He goes in and fixes messes. He's done it all over this
government. I've seen his work in San Francisco. I've seen his work here at the
Department of Justice.
If] didn't know him, if] didn't know his record, iff didn't know he's the man we put in
many places to fix things, I would have no confidence in the FBI right now.
So I hope you'll deliver a message to all your people that it's not good enough to tell us
you hope it’s going to be done in four months, I hope you're going 10 deliver a message
that it better be done in four months or you're not going to have NSLs to worry about.
And I say that as someone who supports him and will fight on the floor to have that
authority given to you if there is proper oversight, but 1 probably won't get a majority of
votes on the House floor if you don't fix it.
So can you tell me you're going to do better than you hope to fix it in four months?
CAPRONI:
Congressman, you're absolutely right. Yes, it will be done.
LUNGREN:
I appreciate that.
Now, Mr, Fine, you're the inspector general for he FBI. [ want to congratulate you on
what you've done. We say -- we take some satisfaction in your carrying out the authority
we gave you, but sometimes that doesn't happen. And we appreciate the job you have
done here. oo
But maybe you won't want to answer this question. Maybe you can help me: How do
you explain carelessness, confusion, sloppiness, lack of training, lack of adequate
guidance and lack of adequate oversight with the FBI? ,
1 just tumed on the television last night and watched one or two or three of these shows
that always shows the FBI as being far better than local government -- that little burr
under my saddle, because I'm a former A.G. of California. I appreciate the FBI, but how
do you explain this?
I'm not sure what would be worse, frankly. At first I was relieved that you satd this:
"And it wasn't intentional action by the FBI.” At least we haven't found that.
I would at first been more worried about that.
LUNGREN:
Now, as i think about this, should I be more worried about the fact that the FBI now, in
something as important as NSLs, has marks of carelessness, confusion, sloppiness, lack
of training, lack of adequate guidance and lack of adequate oversight?
Is this exceptional in your experience, in your oversight of the FBI?
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