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It's primarily your office that ts intended to advise the agents about how to comply with the law, particularly in an area where the courts aren't scrutmizing it, as you pointed out, in a process that lacks transparency. SCHIFF; Isn't that fundamentally the job of your office? CAPRONI: That is fundamentaily the job of my office. CONYERS: The time of the gentleman has expired. The chair recognizes Louie Gohmert of Texas. GOHMERT: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I appreciate that. And I am very pleased that, when we renewed the Patriot Act, we did insert the provision that would require this inspector general report so that we could find out this information that is so very important. In your report, your indications, Mr. Fine, was the FBI did not provide adequate guidance, adequate controls, adequate training on the use of these sensitive authorities; oversight was inconsistent and insufficient. And Ms. Caproni, as I understood Director Mueller to say last week that he took responsibility for the lack of training and experience. And that troubled me a great deal. You'd indicated earlier that people of, I guess, our generation and especially those in the FBI have grown up with accountability, knowing that you're going to be cross- examined. And yet it seems that the overzealousness that Mr. Cohen spoke of often is found in maybe new agents that don't have the time on the ground, the experience. Wouldn't you agree that's sometimes found in newer agents that lack the training and experience? CAPRONI: I don't know in this case if this is an issue of young agents versus old agents. I just don't know the answer to that. GOHMERT: Well, are you familiar with the new personnel policy that this director instituted in the FBI that's affectionately -- or unaffectionately -- called the up-or-out policy? CAPRONI: Yes, sir, [ am. GOHMERT: And, you know, I appreciate the director last week saying that, “We welcome more oversight.” | appreciate your openness in that regard.