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DAVIS: Well, again, Mr. Fine, how -- I know my time is up, but if the chair will indulge me one question -- 1 guess I'm searching for what is opaque about this. This gentleman was in a very important position. He was in charge of the unit. You admit that you interviewed him, but your memory seems foggy as to what you asked him and your memory seems foggy as to whether or not he raised concerns to his superiors and what the concerns were. ] can't imagine a more important interview that you could have conducted. FINE: We did conduct that interview, and we went over extensively what the concerns were between him and the Genera! Counsel's Office and the attempts to put the exigent letters... DAVIS: Who did he register his concerns with? CONYERS: The gentleman's time has just about expired. What I'd like to do is give the inspector general an opportunity to fully finish his answer. FINE: We did interview Mr. Youssef, Congressman, And we did not find that, as a result of his actions, that the problems were corrected. We did find through review of the NSIs that he signed, one, that under his leadership these exigent letters continued, and we saw the efforts between the Office of General Counsel and the CAU to correct this, which did not occur. And we did not see that he put a stop to this. However, we did not do... DAVIS: Was he empowered to put a stop to it? FINE: He was the head of the unit. DAVIS: What if his superiors didn't consent? CONYERS: Just a moment. If my colleague will suspend, I want him to be able to complete his answer before we go on to the next member. FINE: We did not see that this practice was stopped during his time.