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> 10-10-26 with unother nan that I was introduced to by the none off anderspn, but later I learned his name was MeSourren. I went up? | in the*Bliss Building with these men and’ went into Soringer's 4§ | office and told Springer that they wanted to have « tall: with hig reletive to the Smith “murder. opringer ask them tusn what they knew about it und Ryan stated that he and this man thet was with him formerly worked at Fairfax, and that on one occasicn they were « out to a ranch where there was a still or whiskey joint te set some ~ Whiskey ond that they saw a man and woman ina car and thet the woman wes very excited and erying and cursing and soing on, and 213° that they heard her say “Well, you will Go*whet- you oromised or I 22, will send you to nell"; or something te thet effect. Springer asked 22 them if they lmev whe this man end viomen were. Rerun said He vas _ p24 told it was © man by tue nome of Bill Smith, u.né@ sove seue ime ae . 25° that the womun was supposed to be. Soringer ugkea him iv bs knew |° 2 26 whether or not that wes Bill Saith, the mun who sot murdered, or = 27 not, and he stated that he did not inow but Ue heard it was. . "8. Springer then scid that "This information would not éo me any good "3 €9 "on account of it being hearsey". These tvo-men tasn left the roon 30 end | have never seen them since. Tnere was not uny mentie: cP any. : Moncey there oy sjringer, these men, or myself. 32 hater, o4 2rvin end I were et a drug stere east of the fost crrice 24 at Yuira and Boulder when Springer came past. Orwin stopped him 2 35 and ,tuéy stepyed over three or four feet cway from me and I over- » 36 heard part of the conversation. Ervin said Well, Sn6n Gres ow UL going te get on the barrel-head with some Gough", end Sdringer said » +8 "Just want doe you know and how much do you went for your informe- 7 39 tion?" I heard Zrwin say thet he wanted 3400. 0d. I heard ra) Saringer tell frvin the t he dié not care to buy any information is eo gpee 3h he was only one of the defending lawrers, 2Zrvin Susd tnen "You can: $2 let it ell so to hell, I will not tell you anything’ 2 od then left. rvin then stated to me that Sprincer was too tlzht vl ¢; 44 let loose with any monéy so he was not going to sive him 245 formation. w dex Coys later Urwin cot med at nue over a airficulty 2°46 we ned about shere we was to meet. He laid cff of the Police De- aT partaent about May 27th, and I have never sean nim to speax to 48 since. w 89 (Signed) bo... Elliott" NOTE 4- attention is directed to statements of wile Lodpadcen, 304 Ryan, §set out in report of agent Smith captioned us useve, cated. Octob 1, 1926, and statement of Bd Urvin set out in this PSOOrGe - _ i ares a’ e ., af te ake 2 one ae we + . —_ ; ‘ Ay a : . _ “~ . Settee wee “wooo ae ti a y 7 i we te rota TR * noe . ae ?, ~? aw . . wr _ : a . ‘