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pit Gas “$ Ht: - on * . Sg te i Q an iow = 58 Be eg, POs ae bo tea ae Aa € pens kK about mey 7 took it to be such, Mr. Luhring, _ TR: Bh Fight, now. Maturally you teld pis that you did not kad “gpybthing to help the &efense, didn't yout mia dike to have you cently, -~ gone sort of a flattering <3 Well, 1 Just marely told him "a2 1 was compelled to teatify x would have #06 testify to the truth as I knew 14. “You didn’t want to testity you told hint No, air, I didn't, Box, let's not have any misunderstanding betwsan ua here. I have 96@n practicing law for twenty-five years, Mrs. Leahy for much longer, and 1 think we know sonething about human aature ani Know lawyers, and @his lawyer afdn't ge to your place and aak you tc be a witness for the defense without knowlng what you were going to teatify ta, or talk to you abou$ your teeti~ mony, If you wart te bea fair I want you te tell the truths i know that; I have told everything I know. Tall mse what Mr. Hamliton told you shout what your testimony anould be. He didn't ask me. I said he made ome flattering remark about me testifying there, ami I told hia I would sure do 13 if I was going downy 1 worked at Rome and I said "Please don't have me to go om because that interferes with my business. * Bow aet us go back to your eonversation with Kasparie at the weil, Mr, Kaaparia hed sone ative, some purposes in driving @) miles to gee you $o talk about that grand jury proceeding, f want to koow just what he suid to you and you said to Ris, Well, we telked about three exses, 1 remember in partioular, dust a little; we tealkec about this ease, and we talxes about the cage, and we talked about the esse at Enid, where a Forged money omer or sheck Was involvad, And whut wags the other one? i knew the other cone tut it has slipped ay mind now. You don't remember 1¢ now? Hoi a% the oresent Sime, That Feason G€id he give you for wanting to diacuse thoes pro< ere # with you? Well, 1 think he sald that he was adout te be a witness or had been. a witness or exsectec to be a witness aguin, I don't k ow for sure, but it secns to ce like he said he was to be a wite- neas ani be wan tet to Gilacuge it with some body to be certain B® Was sorrect. Jat's« got down to the point where he talked to you about rm Piaias Agnes eonfession .f John Raaatys, Go ahead, whet &id ay? he asked ae {f 1 remenbered in regard $o the conteeaton dohn Ransey, IJ don't know if that de the firet queetidg@? . - "Ghat be esked or sot; 1 Just declare, at the tine I aidnals give 4% a serious thoughte