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ee Letter, BUDENZ received a telephone call from Dr. J. B. MATTIEWS, - : BUDEN a , told MATTHETS he would have to be subpoenaed before he would make any statenont out LATTIHORE. oo, ae ; 2k my. - GREEN then asked about the list of the 400 ‘Communists which BUDENZ - was preparing and asked if there were any goverment employees on that liste . . Bh: BUDELZ said he did not think so but will give in two weeks to the Camittes ---} ~ the names of all of the Cammmists in goverment when he, SUDENZ, knows. The - list of 400 includes a substantial ani impressive showing of Communists in © ~: Hollywood, Caumunists in radio, Cammnists in other aspects of public opinion,’ and Communists in professional classes and the like, GREEN then chided BUDENZ about not preparing a list of Camunists in goverment. BUDENZ replied his 11 of Communists was started long before the TYDINGS Comittee was in existence, 3UDENZ said he was goirg to be more careful about naming Communists in goverm ment because they have more protection, they are highly protected, and he wants | o be absolutely certain, This list will be based on official communications : made to BIDENZ when he was a Party member. re GREEN then as'-ed a question ebout BIMEUZ! statement to te, PARTS of = Colliers “azazine and BUDENZ replied that he did not make an outright statement to PA2TS because he did not wish to expose himself to a libel suit, GREEN then intimmted-that unless BUDENZ were under oath he would not tell the truth, BUDE! aivised that this was not correct. BUDENZ pointed out that a Communist would lie for the Party in a libel suit and BYDENZ will not become so involved. GREEN asked if Conmmists have to carry a Party card. BUDENZ said no, he does not. but a Camunist is always under Party discipline and cited HISS as an exariple. GREEN then remarked, "This is the second time that you have mentioned HTSS. Do you kmow him?" BUDE: ‘Z replied he did not know HISS but he has seen him and use him because he was a good exanple. GREEN then remarked that BUDEMZ had incorrect! estified before the HCUA that he had never met HISS and BUDENZ said that his o. poctize with HISS had been forgotten by BUDEMZ at the time he testified before wifi he HCUA and that HISS at the time of this meeting was using an assumed NANG» GRETX then said that if the Conmunist Party Line twists and turns ‘then that sosetizes there must be within the Camunist Party all of those people who azree with the Party line, When the line turns the other way, other people who agree with this new turn must be in the Party. BUDEIZ, although he did not say | so, intimated that this was preposterous and reminded GREEN that the Conrunist * Party did have a big turn over and that as an example, during the Russo-Gernm i Pact, a lot of people joined the Camunist Party who later fell away fran it when the Pact wes split. BUDEZ pointed out to GHEEN that these kind of members are ¢ not the real Party leajers Sut the real Party leaders follow the line day-in and dav-out, GHZEN then asked 4 LATTRIORE ecorsistently followed the Party line, IUDEDZ replied he could not say whethcr he did not nor because he has not read all of LATTI028' 8 books, GREEN asked hew many he had read and BUDE:Z said very 1 r c