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WASH FIELD LETTER TO DIRECTOR RE: SUBCOMMITTEE OF SENATE FOREIGN RELATIONS COMMITTEE ! Canada, who he stated died in China during the Chinese civil wars. He said that / after BETHUNE's death that BROWDER, in a meeting, stood up and announced that | Dr. BETHUNE asked that upon his death he be counted as one in the Army of STALIN: although during his whole lifetime his Communist affiliation had been purposely | hidden. BUTENZ then named BELA’ DODD as another example of an underground Con munist worker, as well as FIELD.’ ; Senator HICKENLOOPER then asked Mr. BUTENZ to explain who, in his j opinion, was the most effective in the CP, the open member or the secret menber , Mr, BUTENZ answered that both categories work for the great conspiracy, that ! both are equally effective, that they need the open membership to give semblance of a Party and that the underground is effective in espionage operations. He wae then asked if it was a fair assertion te say that the Abuerican reonla had WoW Vises feos kaA Gk a BM 4042 GOoGR villa vu oy Mata ea Sao ae Be ae little imowledge of Comeunism, and he replied that that was true and then re~- marked, BHCYDER always said that we are a small Party, nevertheless we exercise - great influence. ! BUIENZ was asked what his capacity was and he said he was an Assistant Professor at Fordham, He was then asked if he had told Fordham officials of his background and he replied that, although he had not told them in great detail of his background, he knew that the Fordham officials knew who he was ona tmew hte haerbeoraurna Ceanatawe UTOKENTOODED thay sata that tf BITEN? ware H ana Kew Mis DaCcKeround., MOEHGLUL TVR AA bed) al bie 2h ae OL } associated with Fordham, it gave a certain weight to his testimony but BUDENZ guickly replied that he would not connect Fordham with his testimony here and did not wish that Fordham University should be involved in this matter in any way. He said that he desired to stand on his own testimony. Senator HICKEN LOOPER then said that BUDENZ has been a Government witness on a number of occasions and he presumed that the Federal authorities had vouched for | BUDENZ. BUDENZ replied that perhaps this was true but that again he did not j wish to stand upon this reputation but wanted his testimony | on this day to be: , ns ee ee ee ee ee eee ee Vine Ace f im mien judged? ton its on merits. He Was then aGAGM 14 he could it tur Fl BNI ( presuma-~ bly April 24th), but he replied it would be better if he could come back Tues~ day, $® an Executive Session was scheduled for 10:00 on Tuesday, presumably April 25th. At 4:10 pm, BUTENZ was excused and | thanked iy Senator TYDINGS ~ for his testimony. TESTIMONY OF BRIGADIER CENERAL ELLIOT? Ry At this point, over the vigorous objections of Senator LODGE, FORT. Counsel for LATTIMORE, was able to have Brigadier General THORPE sworn as a witness. Senator LODGE advised that he was told that if THORPE were sworn, Senator McCARTHY had a witness whom he wished to offer but this aspect was ? _e 43) F