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1950 this side of the aisle are in cleaning up that situation. But I do not Hke the information I have received, namely, that the Senator irom Zilinois has advised ali Genators on his side of the aisle to leave. If the tnformation I have received is not cor- rect, I should like to kno¢ it. Mr. LUCAS. Mr. President, will the Benator yield? Mr. McCARTHY. Iam glad to yield. Mr. LUCAS. It is customary here. as the Senator fromm Wisconsin knows, that when Members of the Senate inquire whether there is to be a vote on the pending question at a certain time, if it is known that there is not to be a vote at that time, the reply is “No.” Of course, immediately such Senators leave, as the Benator knows; and no doubt the Sen- ator from Wisconsin himself has done that many times since he has been a Member of the Senate. Whenever the minority leader tells Senators on his side of the aisle that there is not going to #* be a vote on the pending question, they Go not usually remain to hear the speech of the Senator from WiscGhsin or the speech of the Senator from Flinols on any subject, regardless of how important it may be. The Senator from Wisconsin should not think he has any monopoly on fight- Ang communism in this country, and he cannot by implication or by innuendo attack the Senator from Dlinols with re- spect to cleaning out the State Depart- ment. I have told the Senator before, and I repeat It now, that whenever the Benator names names and presents con- elusive information before the proper committees, or if he will do it now before the Senate, if he desires, and if what he says is substantiated, I wil] go arm in arm with my good friend the Senator from Wisconsin in assisting in cleaning out any Communist nests in the State Departinent or in any other branch of the Government. The Senator from Wisconsin knows me well enough to know that I was fighting communism long before the Senator from Wisconsin was, because I am several years older than he is. But the matter is so important that It seems to me we should have this entire story now. Let us get all the information and all the facts in the Recoro at this particular time: and the Senator can, by unanimous consent, offer and introduce into the Recor anything he wishes to. Let him put all of it in, and then ask for a meet- ing, elther before a specia] committee of some kind or- before the Foreign Rela- tions Committee or the Judiclary Com- Huttee, and go thoroughly into the things the Senator is talking about. Fam all for that, I sgy to the Senator fram Wisrontin. et ad Mr. McCARTHY. Mr. President, will the Senator agree with me that in view of the facts that I have presented, it is absolutely necessary that we have a com- piete and thoroughly investigation of this matter by a Senate committee? Mr. LUCAS. I am in favor of a com- plete and thorough investigation of what Mo. $5——14 owe CONGRESSIONAL RECORD—SENATE the Senator has said: and I hope the Foreign Relations Committee or some other committee will bring the Senator immediately before it and will interro- gate him under oath With respect to what he has presented here. The Senator should mame names before that commit- tee, because he has said— Mr. McCARTHY. Mr. Preaident, I suggest absence of a quorum. Mr. LU@as. Mr. President, the Sena- tor ylelded to me. Mr. McCARTHY. Mr. President, I fuggest the absence of a quorum. Mr. LUCAS. I will get a quorum, if that is the case. that he will embarrass Senators on his side of the aisie by calling a quorum, I wil] yield while he moves that the Senate take a recess until tomorrow. Let me any this, Mr. President, in view of the attitude of the Senator from Tilinois, who last week. before he knew ny of the evidence, went to Chicago, where he said, “Benator McCartsy is lying: there is not a xingle Communist in the State Department.” Mr. LUCAS. Mr. President, I-— Mr. McCARTHY. Wait a minute, let mn¢ finish. He said there Was not a word of truth in what I said. He said if he had said what I said about there being 57, Cormmunists in the Btate De- partment, he would be ashamed the rest of his life. He now seems to think this should be made a trial of the man who is digging out the Communists, instead of the Communists. If we are to in- duige in such tactics 1 want the entire Benate present to hear it. Mr. LUCAS. Mr. President, I will move to recess until tomorrow, if the Senate wishes that to be done. Mr. DWORSHAK. Mr. President, will the Senator yield? Mr. McCARTHY. I am glad to yield. Mr. DWORSHAE. So far as the junior Senator from Idaho is concerned, he has been glad to remain on the floor to Usten to these important revelations of the Senator from Wisconsin, because the Senator from Wisconsin, in his re- Marks, has shed some light upon the possible reasons for the State Depart- ment's foreign policy in China during the past few years, which possibly justl- fied the infiltration of communism with- in China, to such an extent that it may now be too late to present this very vital information to one of the committees of the Senate. It is too iste now to counteract and nullify that insidious State Department influence, through scores and scores of Communists and fellow travelers who have been respon- gible, even under Secretaries of Btate like General Marshall We realize that only recently J. Edgar Hoover made the Public statement that in this country today there are 540,000 Communists and fellow travelers. 80 I think, the Amer- ican people are entitled to have a com- Plete exposure of the forces within the Btate Department. If there is no truth or justification in what the junior Sena- tor from Wisconsin has been telling this Yody this evening, then the American ck ee 2053 people should know the truth. But at recognises a time when every American that we are at the mercy of sabotaging by those who have been on high - levels in the State Departament and other branches of the executive department, it behooves us bat only te spend $13,000,- 000,000 or $14,000,000,000 on the national defense, but it is the duty, the obligation—I believe the Ametican people join with me in making the state- ment that it is the obligation—of the President of the United States, who is alone responsible for the selection of these officials, through the Secretary of Btate, to make a housecleaning, so that we may proceed to build up the security and defenses of the country, to the end BA at et =— that we may be prepared’ ‘in case we should be the victims of Communist aggression in the months abead. I wish to compliment the junior Sen- ator from Wisconsin on the revelations he is making at this time. Notwith- standing the fact that there are entirely too few Members of this body present, it is encouraging to note that so many members of the press and radio galleries are present. I believe they recognize that the American people want the facts, though, even now, it may be too late to elean our house of the rats and saboteurs who are a constant menace to the safety of the Republic. Mr. McCARTHY. I thank the Sena- tor. Mr. LEHMAN. Mr. President, will the tor yield? Mr. McCARTHY. No; I do not yield. The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator declines to yield. . Mr. McCARTHY. Mr. President, 1. ‘have decided {t may be well to complete the presentation of the case tonight, but Iam not going to speak to an empty chamber. I am going to suggest the absence of a quorum. and then proceed to develop all the facts. I suggest the absence of a quorum. The PRESIDING OFFICER. The secretary will call the roll. . The roll was called, and the following Senators answered to their irfeames: aiken Hayden Anderson Bendrickson Butler Ives Mary’ Cordon dobneon, Golo. Eobertscn Darby Keir Gmitb, Maine Donnel! Lebman Sparkman Dworshak Lucas Wherry Eeton McCarthy Willams The PRESIDING OFFICER. A quo- rum is not present. The clerk will call the names of the absent Senators. The legislative clerk called the names of the absent Senators: and Mr. Carr- want, Mr. Fo.seicawr, Mr. Horr, Mr. Hot- and, Mr. Monsz, Mr. Russel, and Mr. ScHOEPPEL answered to their names when called. _ The PRESIDING OFFICER. A quo rum is not present. : Mr. LUCAS. Mr. President, much ag I dislike to do this, I presume that I shall. be compelled to make a motion to ad- journ. I have not made it yet-——. The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Chair will state that debate is not in order. ~eap ph