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1950 Mr, FERGUSON. The Senator does? Mr. McCARTHY. Yes. Mr. FERGUSON. May I see it? Mr. McCARTHY. Certainly. Next, Mr. President, I come to e Ny __ 1 think this individual has been “doing this Nation untold damage because te ~ the high position she*holds In the This fidividual was f Voice of America. ft the Voice of America project, in the cw York office, unt!l some time ago. he was transferred to Europe, techni- ally tendar annteal nf ¢hea Moammonding Cll MALI RULE Wk REI Wedded eneral, in the same type of work as the Joice of America, and subsequently the entire project was transferred back to Ine State Department, and she is today n the State Department. T should like to read this materiaf. In- celdentally, this is the Jast case wg have. The file in this case contains af wealth of information indicating that tis indi- vidual is am extremely dangermbus and active Communist, completely} disloyal tothe United States, and loyal Soviet Russia. Much of the information here, however, was given in strictest confidence but I shall try to give somewhat of a pic- ture of this person. ‘ It is perhaps sufficient to point out that the witnesses without exception have stated in essence that this indivi- Gual has collected in her office a mixture of fellow travelers and pseudo liberals and cutrighs Communists. These wit- nesses Indicate that the group is close knit and attempts a vicious character assassination of anyone who attempts to disagree With them, rather successfully so. All this information comes from the files of the investigative agency, and, as Thave just said, shows that the witnesses indicate that the group is close knit and attempts a vicious character assassina- tion job of anyone who attempts to dis- agree with them. The witnesses without exception seem to feel that this individual has exerted a great deal of control over the informa- tion used on the Voice of America, and is Going the United States immeasurabie damage. I understand that this individua] is now in Europe, and, although technically under the control of the Army, is inf ef- fect, to all intents and purposes, under the contro! of the State Department, and is stl dolng the same work as that in- volved in the Voice of America, formerly worked on in New York. Mr. President, since this Paper was dictated night before last I find that she is back in the Btate Department. Immediate steps should be taken, In my opinion, te obtain not only the dis- cherre but the prosecution of this in- dividual. Mr. President, I may also say that J feel very strongly that cases Nos. 1,2, and Q1loehoula nat anlu he dierharged hut Ba SBICWIG aL Tally we hue BC el should be immediately prosecuted. How- ever, unless the President will cooperate with us in that, the possibility of a suc- cessful prosecution is rather remote, be- cause of the complete iron curtain of gecrecy. I wish to thank very much the Sen- ators who very patiently have remained here and have listened to what may have anna rontle ana and epparently been somewhat tedicus during the last & hours. I assure them that I tried to keep my yemerks as brief as possible, while at the same time giving Senators all the perti- nent information from the files. Mr. LUCAS. Mr. President, I shall detain the Benate only a moment, and then I shall move that the Senate take & recess. T do clippi t know whether the newspaper s which have come over my desk are correct or incorrect. However, I know that the reporters for the wire services and other reporters for various newspapers who heard the distinguished Senator from Wisconsin in his latest tour across the country have reported many thing he said which alarmed me, to say the itasl. When the Senator from Wisconsin was at Wheeling, W. Va., the newspapers re- ported that the Senator declared he had ‘a list of 205 persons working for the Btate Department, who were known to the Bec- retary of Btate to be members of the Communist Party. When I read that statement I was shocked, and alarmed, a: Ihad aright to be. It seemed to me that if the Senator from Wisconsin had @ list of 205 persons whom he knew to be working in the State Department, and he waited to go on a Republican tour in West Virginia in order to tell the people of the country the fact, it seemed to me to be slightly out of order. If he had the information, he should have reported it directly to the Secretary of State or toa commuttee of the Senate of the United SLares. Not satisfied with tha.. in Reno, Nev., when he was making another political speech, the Senator from Wisconsin said he had compiled a list of 57 Communista in the State Department. Later, in an- other speech, he named four individuals, three of whom, I understand, have not been with the Department for some time, one of whom was never with the Btate Department. In that statement the Benator from Wisconsin said he hastened to say he did not charge any one of the four with beine « Communist with One & VOMIT, Mr. President, the only thing the Ben- ator from Ulinols has been attempting to get, and it is information, which the Senate and the country are entitled to have—is a statement of the names of these individuals in the State Depart- ment, and to get the names as fast as possible, in order to clear up any cloud that may be hovering over every member of the State Department at this very mo- Ment. Mr. President. the Senator from Wis- eonsin has done an injustice to members of the State Department who are loyal and patriotic, and who are attempting to tarry on in the great world crisis in which we find ourselves. Instead of do- ing 50 on @ political tour, it would have been much better and much more in Keeping with the best interest of the Nation, had the Senator submitted the names directly to a committee of tha Senate or to the State Department, in- stead of making political propaganda out of it from one end of the country to the other. Mr. Fresident, the Senator from Dli- nois can speak for fhe majority party in saying there is not a single Member on CONGRESSIONAL RECORD—SENATE ( 2071 this side of the aisle who is not as 5 much interested as is the Senator from Wis- consin in determining where Commu- nists rest, if there are any within the Government departments, and we will do the very thing the Senator ts request- ing. I guarantee him that a committees will be formed at once, and the Benator from Wisconsin will have an opportunity to come before the committee to tell who these persons are. Before the com- mittee, he will not be able to hide behind humbers, He will have to tell the facts pee eet ry Best SSCL and disclose the names of the persons within the State Department who are Communists. It ought to be done, Mr. President. If such charges can be made against a group in the State Department, without naming them, they can be made against aimost aay group in any depari- ment. Therefore, in view of what the Benator has sald upon his political tour over the country, and in view of what he has said on the fioor of the Senate to- night, it becomes absolutely necessary to Clear this matter up as soon as possible. So far as I am concerned, If, as the Benator said in his Wheeling, W. Va., speech, ff the press quoted him correctly, there is a single person in the Depart- ment carrying a Communist card, the Senator from Illinois wants to know about it, and every other Senator wants to know about it. Weshall find cut. We shall not find out by innuendo and by helf truths and distorted facts. The facts, if there are facts, will be produced, We shall not go around talking about No. 1, No. 2, No. 3, and so on to No. 83. Mr. President, that is all I have to say at this time. I repeat what I said in the beginning, that all the Senator from Dli- nois was trylng to find out was as to who the persons in question are. I think the Senate and the country are entitled to know as speedily as possible just who In the State Department is being charged With being a Communist. If the facts produced show that the persons on the list are Communists, the Senator knows that the President of the United States as well as the Senator from Dinois and every other Member on this side of the aisle will not rest until such Communists are discharged from office. Moreover, if there have been any traitorous acts either of espionage or anything else con+ nected with it, having in mind the nume bers the Senator has given us, they, too, will probably be ferreted out. But, Mr. President, to assert that 205 persons are card carriers of the Commu- nist Party, or that even 87 are card car- riers, is to reflect seriously upon the FBI, The FBI knows practically every Com- ers | eet wee dee tL ma TT munist Carag carriér in wus COULGLTY. a say the President of the United States and the FSI would not knowingly permit such a card carrier to remain in any Government department. If they would, I should want to find out about it myself, _ The PRESIDING OFFICER, What is the pleasure of the Senate? RECESS Mr. LUCAS. I now move that the Senate stand in recess until tomorrow at “11 o'clock a. m. The motion was agreed to; and (at 11 o'clock and 42 minutes p.m.) the Senate took a recess unti] tomorrow, Tuesday, February 21, 1950, at 11 o'clock a. m.