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Spee with many others, members of this gang, ‘but these are the only per— knew f= 7 ha sons wmiSssS nazss 0 BATHS RUSSEL stated he had just recently tried to tell this to the Gary, Indiana Police Department, but as their adninistra- tion was changing. the first of the year they were not interested. He insisted that the man appearing in the guise of a policeman on instant occasion, as heretofore described, was JOHN DILLINGER. He further stated that he understood thig gang had been partly broken, but that MIKE, GEORGE and ALBERT[KAUFMAN, who were sons of MIKE KAUFMAN, SR., are members of this gang, still running at large, and thet they have also been making plates for the making of counterfeit money, which they had also made; that he had seen the plates. He stated that it was because of fear that members of this gang were trying to get him, and that this was the reason for making the complaint at the present time, which the writer remarked to him was rather a late time for him to furnish said information. He stated that for the past few years he has been engaged in the sharpening and taking care of dentists’ tools, and that for the past five yearg or so he had ground the dental in- atruments for DR. GEORGE AQ MATULA, who has an office on the 27th floor of the Bankers Bldg. The telephone directory shows a GEORGERMATULA at 105 West Adams Street, this building address, telephone State 3706. While MR. HUSSEL was hard to understand, yet he appear— ed rational, and the writer was unable to state whether he was mentally off. The writer submitted these facts to Acting Special Agent in Charge E. J. GEBBEN, who stated to place them in memorandum form, but that there was nothing in which this Office at present was concerned in connection therewith, after which the writer suggested that RUSSEL submit his information with reference to this gang making counterfeit plates to the Yecret Service. He indicated that he would do ao, and would probably also go to the Chicago Police Department. Pe m3 3__ Respectfully submitted. JRG: LM Special Agent