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we ste Soa ae we ® or Here we ee gee eee Se ee ec Lc ce an na ee ee ee a ee er tee Ye hPa ae Sai Washington Spring Project say? Rutherford related that the day following the church meeting they (SCLC officials) held a private meeting "with these guys" and "lit into them", Rutherford stated that he told Stokely(Carmichael) that he, Rutherford, wanted to hear what Stokely had to say and that Stokely gave some "mealy-mouthed excuses" that did not stand up. Rutherford also noted that he told Carmichael that "these men told us" that tney are interested in the total Gestruction of the United States. aad hon : , t a oo ee oe Seay WY: i 4 ct aoe "Fr 1G 1 dis Levison commented that he had heard Stokely say this and Rutherford's comment was that "this is what Rap (Brown) said last night", Rutherford continued that Stokely is now “sweet as pie. He pulled a power play on us in Washington", but did not win anything because ~ y everybody was opposing him. “" Levison commented that he could not see the SCLC letting ten persons who threaten violence take over from hundreds. He described it as a dangerous thing, a king of black facism. Rutherford, in referring to tne meeting, related that a person named Courtland (phonetic),whom he deseribed as having been with the Congress of Racial Equality, made the statement that "they" would not support"our campaign” in Washington, D.C,, but would not participate in any opposition to it. He said this is "their whole life”, that although they could not take part in sometning they do not believe in, even tnough they have trouble from their constituents, they would not oppose it because anything ee oe that leads to liberation is worthwhile. Rutherford said that King became very upset after this private meeting and began berating him. He said he told King thet what "they' ‘said is clear and that the SCLC knows now where they stand, that ali the SCLC wanted and needed o- Jf eK