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( C CONF paNTIAL ) e NY 100-161445 had planned at 8:00 a.m. this day to "turn over" earth-moving equipment, bulldozers and caterpillars which were being used in some type of IBM project in or near Volinas, which was going to necessitate the destruction of numerous trees in the area. He stated that these friends felt that “the system” was destroying something valuable, trees, to effect a worthless IBM system which would not work anyway. Tr2refore, these friends were determined to impede the IBM project. HOFFMAN stated that to wait for masses to absorb an idea or ideology was foolish. He stated it was not necessary to await the mass acceptance of revolutionary ideas. He used the example of three men, doctors at an emergency hospitel in New York who, through their refusal to accept hospital adminis- trator's demands of $16 per person for emergency treatment, and by threatening to resign effected a change of hospital charges to $2 per emergency treatment. HOFFMAN emphasized that if three men can beat the system in New York and enable the poor to receive medical attention, it is possible for three others to effect additional changes if they have resolution of purpose. At this time HOFFMAN entered into a rather lengthy and unstructured monologue during which he mentioned a number of topics. He admitted at this time that he wore a shirt similar to an American flag and it was ripped off by police officers who "really went wild when they saw the Viet Cong flag on my back." He also stated that others had followed his example of desecrating the flag, and mentioned specifically a boy 16 years old who wore a flag shirt and was arrested and for punish- ment received a sentence barring him from Alexandria, Virginia, until he was 21 years of age. HOFFMAN mentioned that the “straight people” had set free the Oakland Seven. He also indicated that other "straight people" were beginning to accept some Yippie behavior and if they do not accept it, unusual circumstances can arise. For example, HOFFMAN mentioned that recently one of the publishers of Readers Digest was stabbed by his son who was "sick of his father's regimented traditionalism.” HOFFMAN stated at this point, "there will be lots of sons killing fathers in the revolution." 63 f