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NY 100-161445 JERRY RUBIN: Stated we were not the victims of the Chicago trial, we were privileged to be on trial and to be covered by TV. Stated that after the Chicago trial, people looked on the court system in the US with a lack of respect and authority. Stated America is committing serious crimes. . RENNIE DAVIS: We tried to say that the legal system in this country is not in tune with justice. Not everyone agreed with our policies or style, but we made people conscious of corruption of the system. TOM HAYDEN: It is ironic that the same people who wanted to send us to jail are now in jail themselves and we are out on the streets. Justice is still Political. Politically our case has been made and the case of those who wanted to silence the movement becoming increasingly discredited. CAVETT: Are there any courts you respected? TOM HAYDEN: We didn't like the way the system of Justice functioned, we were in various courts and were sometimes able to win, but you can have a good verdict and still say that the system that dispenses the verdict is rotten. CAVETT: What is going on today? JERRY RUBIN: The 60's were issue oriented, in the 70's the people are going inward and discovering themselves. The movement is by no means dead. Society is in great crisis and the country is falling apart. There is a spiritual and cultural renaissance going on in this country. CAVETT: What part do any of you plan to play? JERRY RUBIN: The late 70's are going to combine the action tactics of the 60's with the intouch feelings of the 70's. The most important thing going on is the Women's Movement because that breaks down the whole structure of society. Women are discovering their power. There were women active in the Yippies but they didn't have a chance to express themselves because of male chauvinism in the movement and society. JUDY GUMBO and NANCY KURSHAN were women in the Yippies. The men dominated, however, and that is one of the reasons why the movement dissintergrated. -5-