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| HOFFMAN: Um, well, in forty times, I've only been con- victed three times in lower court; and, uh, all three are up for appeal. Yeah. AUDIENCE: And you said that you don't feel that you'll ever lose an appeal. BOFFMAN; No. AUDIENCE: I think I‘m quoting you anyhow. a HOFFMAN: Yeah, well, maybe, I, well, I, I, they'll never ~, put me in jail. ) MAN IN ae AUDIENCE: Then you say that there's no legal justice? ae How can you say that? It may be slow, but it’s Hanae there. HOFFMAN: Well, it's, uh, um, the going to jail is not the only way that the government uses, uses the court system. For.example, for Columbia, I was arrested for being in a building in Columbia, when in fact at the time I was in a radio station 50 blocks away. You see, and the police make that little kind of mistake, so <I get off. But my trial hasn't even come up yet, even though that was a year ago, and I've made six appearances. You see, and you have to go to the court and sit there, am it ties up the lawyers and it ties up our, myself, f have over $12,000 in bail funds already in various cities around the country, all tied up. And then they claim, like once I was arrested for carrying concealed weapon on an aircraft. ba cw | DOUGLAS: Where was this? hoy is 77 7 HOFFMAN: From New York to Chicago. It was a pocket ad 24