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; Abbott Howard Hoffman oot free planet. We viewed it as that struggle with a dying death culture and thats represented by the government. David Frost: If you had ‘the power to fashion your country tomorrow, how would it differ? Abbie Hoffman: It would be heaven. I mean I'm a heavenist, I believe in heaven, and I think that we could have it, I'm not the traditional kind of leftist and I'm —_ not martyr that uh....I did not have a a ; good time in jail, none of the seven of us did, they ran out of nails long before they got to us. I think we think that the revolution will come out of jury rather than out of: sacrifice. We have * Se We be Weseehe WE SE oe ee anor a concept of a revolution which the technology and the services are available _ to all of the people come who may...ali ores , over the world literally heaven on earth; bot, we think we can have it, we think the oe technology particularly in this country. ot so I mean I've been all over to universities So as the Attorney General cen tell you and EB Mr. Agnew and it seems that scientist i not only know how to build a better mouse trap but now can literally build a better mouse and the technology is available to ! : a on a | a, ee ee et provide for all the needs and ail the beg services to do things like keep the rivers ag clean and keep our garbage and our garbage i values out of the rest of the worid, and fo" we fight against that kind of system that _ does not allow that kind of economic system Lo to come into being. David Frost: . Not all the people see the hippie movement or whatever you care to call it as some- . thing for the tiny minority, if your : heaven on earth came about. How would life “* be better for the other persons, out of Hew York, (intelligible), out of Chicago?