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ABBOTT H. HOFFMAN "And I'll tell you revolution is about life. It's not about dying. You don't die for the revolution, you live for it. (Indistinct) says the revolution will not come because of sacrifice but through joy. Well, that has to be redefined because the word joy, the word joy is just a liquid soap, ain't it? Ain't that joy? I mean, don't you have those kind of problems with the language. Life--ain't that a magazine? That's life! Magazine--I got it, it's fifty cents, right. See the newsstand. Saw it the other day, Charlie Manson...picture...did you see it? You look at his eyes? Fuckin kids went, whew! He hypnotized me, I don't know, I stabbed my old lady. (Indistinct) "Life versus death. Come there, you look over the Government tabie. There they sat the prosecutors, hard plotters. The evidence! Consider the evidence! These men are evil men, dangerous men, we must lock them up. One of the members of the Government table was FBI Agent, Mr. Stanley. He just sat there patting(?) his gun. He couldn't figure out why the Government was putting up with all this shit, we should of been shot the first fuckin day and gotten it over with." (Indistinct - Hoffman makes several guttural sounds and mumbles somewhat). "He must wl mae i ways at time a defense witness would go on the stand, whether it was a factory worker or folk singer, member of Parliament from England, 29